Moving jobs with no financial gain

Fuzzy_Lookup

No idea. I absolutely want to leave my current job so trying to get a counter offer won't do any good. 

Ath_Wat

Fuzzy_Lookup said:

No idea. I absolutely want to leave my current job so trying to get a counter offer won't do any good. 

Obviously if you want to leave and the only offer you can get is the same money, you leave for the same money.  I don't see where the question is in that case. 
It seems to me that as you want to leave your job but it isn't absolutely urgent, the question you are asking really is "What are the chances of me getting a better paying offer if I hang on?". And nobody can possibly answer this better than you, as nobody else has anything like as much information as to what opportunities there are and how good a potential employee you are (and/or present as).

Fuzzy_Lookup

One thing I have learned from past experience is that I should give more consideration to what's happening now than to the future. I'm not saying the future isn't important, but when I've taken an opportunity because of what it could offer me in the future rather than what it could offer me now it's not gone the way I hoped it would.

Around a year into my career I had a final interview at a company that looked exactly the sort of place I wanted to work. A clear career progression path, interesting looking projects and I met the 2 owners of the company who I was impressed by. I didn't get offered the job and was really disappointed by it.

When Glassdoor came about I read that just after that interview the 2 owners sold the company and sailed off into the sunset, the new owners had no idea what they were doing and eventually it ceased to exist.

Maybe that tells me if a potential job isn't ticking the right boxes now then I should decline because it may not live up to expectation and you never know what's round the corner.

GiantTCR

Fuzzy_Lookup said:

One thing I have learned from past experience is that I should give more consideration to what's happening now than to the future. I'm not saying the future isn't important, but when I've taken an opportunity because of what it could offer me in the future rather than what it could offer me now it's not gone the way I hoped it would.

Around a year into my career I had a final interview at a company that looked exactly the sort of place I wanted to work. A clear career progression path, interesting looking projects and I met the 2 owners of the company who I was impressed by. I didn't get offered the job and was really disappointed by it.

When Glassdoor came about I read that just after that interview the 2 owners sold the company and sailed off into the sunset, the new owners had no idea what they were doing and eventually it ceased to exist.

Maybe that tells me if a potential job isn't ticking the right boxes now then I should decline because it may not live up to expectation and you never know what's round the corner.

Have you ever thought about contracting? It has its own risks but it gives you more flexibility to choose your work and jump ship more easily if something better comes along.

robatwork

Fuzzy_Lookup said:

 My biggest gripe is there's lots of people highly opinionated about nothing but hot air. I was listening to a conversation/debate between 2 colleagues the other day and thinking to myself I have no idea what you're talking about and I don't care.

You're on £65k and not worked out that this is every workplace in the world?

Well consider yourself told. 

Brie

What else does the new job offer?  What's the difference with the benefits - better or worse pension scheme?  closer to home?  easier commute by train?  Do you know people that work there?  Does it have something special about it (I've known places with high quality restaurants, free bars, full sports facilities etc etc)

I changed roles a few years back and took a cut in pay based on the fact that instead of having an hour commute each way and having to pay for petrol and parking I could get a job that was literally just down the street and I could walk to and from work in about 20 minutes.  The drop in pay was more than made up for by the savings in commuting costs and time.  And it had a decent pension scheme.

Fuzzy_Lookup

I may start contracting in the future but want to buy a house first.

The commute in this job would be slightly longer but cost the same. Not sure about the pension scheme, but the one where I am is rubbish. Don't know anyone who works there or anything special about it, but I've worked at places with ping pong tables etc. and don't consider it to be much of a benefit.

My situation is that I was was considered by others to be exceptionally good at my job and have lots of potential. 15 years later I've not got very far and I think part of that is down to me having no interest in what any of the companies I've worked for do. The main difference between my current job and the one I'm interviewing for is that they do something I'm interested in.

I've now had the interview and waiting to hear back.  

ceh209

Fuzzy_Lookup said:

The main difference between my current job and the one I'm interviewing for is that they do something I'm interested in.

I've now had the interview and waiting to hear back. 

Then hopefully your genuine interest will have come over in the interview, good luck with it!

Fuzzy_Lookup

Well I never did hear back so problem solved for this one.

In my line of work there's an unwritten rule that you shouldn't stay with the same company for more than 5 years. I've stayed with one company for more than 5 years but had my first interview for another job around 18 months after starting there. My worry is therefore staying in the job I'm in for that long.

I'm trying not to repeat past mistakes and one if those was I may have been too picky about where I went next. I didn't want to take just any job for the sake of moving but there were opportunities I didn't pursue because they weren't quite right that in hindsight I would have been better off taking than staying where I was.

In most of the jobs I've had in the past including ones I did as a student there would be enjoyable aspects to the job in the early days at least, If I'm honest I've never found any joy in the job I'm in. 

Ath_Wat

Fuzzy_Lookup said:

In most of the jobs I've had in the past including ones I did as a student there would be enjoyable aspects to the job in the early days at least, If I'm honest I've never found any joy in the job I'm in. 

Then why on earth have you been so picky about moving on?  And why are you still being picky about moving on?