We'd like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum. This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are - or become - political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

car purchase

aayush
aayush Posts: 1,295 Forumite
Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
Hi
Am thinking of getting a new car but need some advice car costs around £19k if take PCP monthly is 300.84 over 49 months  
would be able to get a loan from my bank and would it be cheaper ? any idea what repayments would be ?

Comments

  • You may well pay more per month, as a PCP or PCH will mean either that you don’t own the car at the end of the 4 years, or there’s a big ‘balloon payment’ to pay at then end to own it. With a straight car loan you’re simply paying a regular amount to pay down said loan.
    Do you have any sort of lump sum to pay a deposit to reduce the loan you want, or a car to trade in? What’s it’s value for Part Exchange if you do?
    Probably worth you reading this website to give you some solid information before you step onto a dealer forecourt or website
    https://www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/everyday-money/buying-and-running-a-car/whats-the-best-way-to-finance-buying-a-car
    Arch
  • aayush
    aayush Posts: 1,295 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    the repayment is with part exchange so would it better if I asked what is my part exchange with finance as pcp
    as the present car is 3 yrs old 
    And on £24k t present thus think getting personal loan is out ?
  • DrEskimo
    DrEskimo Posts: 2,393 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Why are you considering a new car at £19k when you earn £24k?

    what’s wrong with the current car that you need to change?

    in any case we need the specific details, including:

    cost of car
    any deposit (cash and/or part exchange)
    term
    APR
    final payment 
    monthly cost
  • aayush
    aayush Posts: 1,295 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    DrEskimo said:
    Why are you considering a new car at £19k when you earn £24k?

    what’s wrong with the current car that you need to change?it is aslo on pcp 7kwill be due next year 

    in any case we need the specific details, including:

    cost of car 19105.00
    any deposit (cash and/or part exchange)
    term
    APR
    final payment 
    monthly cost
    Finance Deposit Contribution (FDC) £ 1250.00 Total Deposit (incl FDC) £ 4250.00 Balance £ 17855.00 Annual mileage used for quote 5000

    PCP Payment Options 49 months x £271.60 £9855.00

  • DrEskimo
    DrEskimo Posts: 2,393 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    aayush said:
    DrEskimo said:
    Why are you considering a new car at £19k when you earn £24k?

    what’s wrong with the current car that you need to change?it is aslo on pcp 7kwill be due next year 

    in any case we need the specific details, including:

    cost of car 19105.00
    any deposit (cash and/or part exchange)
    term
    APR
    final payment 
    monthly cost
    Finance Deposit Contribution (FDC) £ 1250.00 Total Deposit (incl FDC) £ 4250.00 Balance £ 17855.00 Annual mileage used for quote 5000

    PCP Payment Options 49 months x £271.60 £9855.00

    Not sure where the £19,105 figure is coming from? If the balance to finance is £17,855, and the deposit (inc. FDC) is £4,250, then the car is £22,105.

    According to those figures you financing £17,855 at around 9% APR at a total interest cost of £5,036.80. A personal loan at 5.1% for the same amount over the same term would be around £1,800, so a third of the cost, but a highly monthly (£410/month) as there will be no large final payment. So a significant saving.

    The real question is if your earnings are only £24k, is it really sensible to finance a £22k car that is anticipated to cost £12k in depreciation and £5k in interest over the next 4yrs? That's £4,250/year before you even consider fuel, insurance, maintenance and servicing just for a car.

    Either keep your current car, or if that is also on finance, trade it in, take the equity (£3,000?) and buy a cheap run about whilst saving he £260/month into an easy access savings account. Use your income to build wealth, not to run expensive depreciating metal or line the pockets of multi-billion pound finance companies.
  • aayush
    aayush Posts: 1,295 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 500 Posts Name Dropper
    please see below 
    full break down hope it of help 






  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,128 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 13 November 2022 at 4:32PM
    If you have a 3 year old car and you are doing less than 5K miles per annum, why do you want to trade it in and have to finance 19K to purchase a new car?  It's insane. You are borrowing near to your net annual income against a rapidly depreciating asset.
    Your existing car has just passed the point of peak depreciation and you still owe nearly £10k in finance on it.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • macman said:
    If you have a 3 year old car and you are doing less than 5K miles per annum, why do you want to trade it in and have to finance 19K to purchase a new car?  It's insane. You are borrowing near to your net annual income against a rapidly depreciating asset.
    Your existing car has just passed the point of peak depreciation and you still owe nearly £10k in finance on it.
    It may be that the 3 year old car is coming to the end of an existing PCP contract, and will therefore be about to trigger the final payment for @aayush to keep it. If it’s owned outright, I agree with you, OP should look to keep it rather than shell out on another finance agreement.
    Arch
  • DrEskimo
    DrEskimo Posts: 2,393 Forumite
    Seventh Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 13 November 2022 at 5:03PM
    aayush said:
    please see below 
    full break down hope it of help 






    Very helpful.

    So yes its exactly as I outlined above. It's a £22,105 car, as you need to include the £3k equity you are bringing into it to help pay for it.

    I would look at getting a £10k loan and just settling the finance you have on your current car. You have a chance to buy a perfectly good 3yr old car that is worth probably north of £15k from a dealer (considering they are offering £13k in trade in) for just £10k. A car you know inside out and has only been driven by you presumably?

    It will cost a fraction in interest and depreciation relative to this new car deal.
  • If you decide to source your finance elsewhere then you will need to add the £1,250 FDC back in too to give a total to finance of £19,105
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 348.6K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.3K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 452.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 241.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 617.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 175.8K Life & Family
  • 254.5K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 15.1K Coronavirus Support Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.