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Quote for JA Solar 405W Panels & SolarEdge Optimers - good or not?

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I have a quote from MCS (checked) installer in S Wales for:

8 x JA Solar 405W Panels, 1 SolarEdge 3000H Inverter, 8 x SolarEdge Optimisers & Assoc kit = £4057 

Installation would be a further £2520 inc VAT which means total of £6577

I don't need a battery but checked that one could be retro-fitted if necessary.

Any thoughts on quote and/or panels.  Any questions I should ask?

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  • ABrass
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    edited 9 November 2022 at 10:05AM
    Expensive. The components shouldn't cost that much.

    The panels are £1240
    The inverter is £640
    The SE Optimisers are £480
    That's £2360, the rails and cables are a few hundred more.

    Also there shouldn't be any VAT on that system.

    Get more quotes.
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  • QrizB
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    I read your post and thought "£4057 sounds a pretty good price" - then saw that installation was on top of that.
    I agree with ABrass, that's too much.
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  • ABrass said:
    Expensive. The components shouldn't cost that much.

    The panels are £1240
    The inverter is £640
    The SE Optimisers are £480
    That's £2360, the rails and cables are a few hundred more.

    Also there shouldn't be any VAT on that system.

    Get more quotes.
    The Vat is only on the scaffolding and labour.  No Vat on the panels, inverters, optomisers.

    There are a dearth of MCS installers in SE Wales too which haven't just jumpedon the bandwagon i.e. loft, roof installers 
  • The Vat is only on the scaffolding and labour.  No Vat on the panels, inverters, optomisers.

    There are a dearth of MCS installers in SE Wales too which haven't just jumpedon the bandwagon i.e. loft, roof installers 
    There shouldn’t be any VAT on any part of the installation either
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  • Screwdriva
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    I have a quote from MCS (checked) installer in S Wales for:

    8 x JA Solar 405W Panels, 1 SolarEdge 3000H Inverter, 8 x SolarEdge Optimisers & Assoc kit = £4057 

    Installation would be a further £2520 inc VAT which means total of £6577

    I don't need a battery but checked that one could be retro-fitted if necessary.

    Any thoughts on quote and/or panels.  Any questions I should ask?
    Sorry to say, you're being overcharged. An equivalent system (8X400W Sharp Panels, SE Inverter and Optimizers with 25 year warranty on everything) should cost no more than £5200 installed. Another forum member is getting a S Wales installation quote so maybe you both could connect? 
    -  10 x 400w LG + 6 x 550W SHARP BiFacial Panels + SE 3680 HD Wave Inverter + SE Optimizers. SE London.
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  • I have a quote from MCS (checked) installer in S Wales for:

    8 x JA Solar 405W Panels, 1 SolarEdge 3000H Inverter, 8 x SolarEdge Optimisers & Assoc kit = £4057 

    Installation would be a further £2520 inc VAT which means total of £6577

    I don't need a battery but checked that one could be retro-fitted if necessary.

    Any thoughts on quote and/or panels.  Any questions I should ask?
    Sorry to say, you're being overcharged. An equivalent system (8X400W Sharp Panels, SE Inverter and Optimizers with 25 year warranty on everything) should cost no more than £5200 installed. Another forum member is getting a S Wales installation quote so maybe you both could connect? 
    could you tell me who or PM me? 
    Thanks
  • Thanks
    Gone back to installer to check on VAT though this is pretty clear:
    https://www.gov.uk/tax-on-shopping/energy-saving-products


  • Spies
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    Yeah that suggests 5% Vat on labour. 
    4.29kWp Solar system, 45/55 South/West split in cloudy rainy Cumbria. 
  • ecraig
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    So how do so many pv installers do this vat free considering the vat threshold is £85k?

  • ecraig said:
    So how do so many pv installers do this vat free considering the vat threshold is £85k?

    https://www.gov.uk/tax-on-shopping/energy-saving-products

    You’ll pay a rate of either 5% or 0% VAT when certain energy-saving products are installed in your home if you’re eligible.

    Not all products or installations qualify for the lower rate and you cannot buy or install them yourself.

    Your installer will be responsible for charging you the correct rate of VAT.

    The rate you pay and your eligibility depends on whether you are in Great Britain (England, Scotland and Wales) or Northern Ireland.

    If you’re in Great Britain

    You’ll pay a rate of 0% VAT on both:

    • certain products supplied by your installer

    • the cost of all work to install those products in your home

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