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COUNCIL TAX FOR A RENTED ROOM IN AN HMO (House in Multiple Occupation)

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  • I thought she had the only room with en suite but apparently they all do and they have all been billed individually.  I am having trouble understanding how this change occurred on 23rd January when she has lived there since August 2021 but I guess, at the end of the day, she will have to pay the bill.  Thank you for all your comments.
  • in_my_wellies
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    edited 6 September 2022 at 1:18PM
    JulieDH said:
    I thought she had the only room with en suite but apparently they all do and they have all been billed individually.  I am having trouble understanding how this change occurred on 23rd January when she has lived there since August 2021 but I guess, at the end of the day, she will have to pay the bill.  Thank you for all your comments.
    Seems the council are on to a good thing. If there are five occupants all paying Band A I suspect that adds up to more than when the house was billed as a normal dwelling 
    Love living in a village in the country side
  • macman
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    She must speak to the LL, and find out what has triggered this, and seek an immediate rent reduction to reflect the proportion of CT that he was charging on top of the rent.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • macman
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    JulieDH said:
    I thought she had the only room with en suite but apparently they all do and they have all been billed individually.  I am having trouble understanding how this change occurred on 23rd January when she has lived there since August 2021 but I guess, at the end of the day, she will have to pay the bill.  Thank you for all your comments.
    Seems the council are on to a good thing. If there are five occupants all paying Band A I suspect that adds up to more than when the house was billed as a normal dwelling 
    It's the VOA who decide what the classification is, nothing to do with the council. Their only role is to bill it and collect it.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • lincroft1710
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    macman said:
    She must speak to the LL, and find out what has triggered this, and seek an immediate rent reduction to reflect the proportion of CT that he was charging on top of the rent.
    As there was apparently no mention of CT in the tenancy agreement, I would put money on the LL saying that the rent did not include an element for CT.  
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • macman said:
    JulieDH said:
    I thought she had the only room with en suite but apparently they all do and they have all been billed individually.  I am having trouble understanding how this change occurred on 23rd January when she has lived there since August 2021 but I guess, at the end of the day, she will have to pay the bill.  Thank you for all your comments.
    Seems the council are on to a good thing. If there are five occupants all paying Band A I suspect that adds up to more than when the house was billed as a normal dwelling 
    It's the VOA who decide what the classification is, nothing to do with the council. Their only role is to bill it and collect it.
    OK, I understand your point. Do the council spend the money? Someone is onto a good thing
    Love living in a village in the country side
  • macman
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    macman said:
    JulieDH said:
    I thought she had the only room with en suite but apparently they all do and they have all been billed individually.  I am having trouble understanding how this change occurred on 23rd January when she has lived there since August 2021 but I guess, at the end of the day, she will have to pay the bill.  Thank you for all your comments.
    Seems the council are on to a good thing. If there are five occupants all paying Band A I suspect that adds up to more than when the house was billed as a normal dwelling 
    It's the VOA who decide what the classification is, nothing to do with the council. Their only role is to bill it and collect it.
    OK, I understand your point. Do the council spend the money? Someone is onto a good thing
    Yes, obviously the council gain with more properties liable, but my point was that they have no way to influence the VOA to list or delist a property: they get what the VOA decides.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • macman
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    macman said:
    She must speak to the LL, and find out what has triggered this, and seek an immediate rent reduction to reflect the proportion of CT that he was charging on top of the rent.
    As there was apparently no mention of CT in the tenancy agreement, I would put money on the LL saying that the rent did not include an element for CT.  
    Very likely, but the tenants have nothing to lose by asking.
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • macman said:
    macman said:
    She must speak to the LL, and find out what has triggered this, and seek an immediate rent reduction to reflect the proportion of CT that he was charging on top of the rent.
    As there was apparently no mention of CT in the tenancy agreement, I would put money on the LL saying that the rent did not include an element for CT.  
    Very likely, but the tenants have nothing to lose by asking.
    Thank you for all your comments.  My daughter contacted the landlord and, despite there being no mention of council tax in her tenancy agreement, he has agreed to lower her rent by £50 per month.  This means that, if she gets the SPD, she will be paying £25 per month more than she is at the moment.  She is happy with that as she didn't expect the landlord to do anything about it.  Thank you everyone for all your input.  It just shows it is always worth asking.
  • lincroft1710
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    edited 8 September 2022 at 2:59PM
    JulieDH said:
    macman said:
    macman said:
    She must speak to the LL, and find out what has triggered this, and seek an immediate rent reduction to reflect the proportion of CT that he was charging on top of the rent.
    As there was apparently no mention of CT in the tenancy agreement, I would put money on the LL saying that the rent did not include an element for CT.  
    Very likely, but the tenants have nothing to lose by asking.
    Thank you for all your comments.  My daughter contacted the landlord and, despite there being no mention of council tax in her tenancy agreement, he has agreed to lower her rent by £50 per month.  This means that, if she gets the SPD, she will be paying £25 per month more than she is at the moment.  She is happy with that as she didn't expect the landlord to do anything about it.  Thank you everyone for all your input.  It just shows it is always worth asking.
    That has restored my faith in humanity! Is he backdating the rent decrease?
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
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