Do I need to file a tax return

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Gov.uk has the criteria that if over £100k total income is earned in a year, a return must be filed.

- If a fixed term savings matures, is the interest on this amount classified as income, or is it the capital that we already had, along with the interest?
- Are gambling winnings included (I know they are not taxed)

Thanks

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  • Dazed_and_C0nfusedDazed_and_C0nfused Forumite
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    Outside of ISA's or some NS&I the interest is taxable income.  Not the capital.

    No, gambling winnings aren't included.
  • mugstonmugston Forumite
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    Thanks, but the official wording is;
    "What was your total income for the year?
    To work this out, add up all your income - for example, salary before tax, taxable benefits (such as a company car), and income from investments or pensions."

    So it says income, not taxable income.
    Gambling winnings are not specifically stated.
    I would imagine investment capital would not fall under it, as it cannot be income if it was already held, and only the profit is the income.
  • MDMDMDMD Forumite
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    It’s based on adjusted net income, which starts with taxable income.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/adjusted-net-income#what-is-adjusted-net-income
  • Jeremy535897Jeremy535897 Forumite
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    Gambling winnings are never counted as income for any tax or benefit purpose. The reason is simple: most people lose overall, and if you tax the winnings, logic dictates that there must be some sort of relief for losses.
  • mugstonmugston Forumite
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    MDMD said:
    It’s based on adjusted net income, which starts with taxable income.

    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/adjusted-net-income#what-is-adjusted-net-income
    Thanks.
    I can't see it being stated anywhere (is it?) that by total income means adjusted net income, but I hope you are correct.

    Another question that is not well defined is;

    "Did you get more than £10,000 from dividends or savings and investments?

    Income from savings and investments includes:

    • savings interest
    • money from bare trusts
    • interest in possession trusts"
    Would capital gains on an ETF fall under this?
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    Jeremy535897Jeremy535897 Forumite
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    edited 31 August 2022 at 11:10AM
    Although HMRC say you must file a tax return if your total income exceeds £100,000, there is no legislation specifically requiring this. However, if your adjusted net income exceeds £100,000, legislation provides that your personal allowance is withdrawn by £1 for every £2 of that excess. That often means that an underpayment arises, which would create the requirement to complete a tax return (section 7 Taxes Management Act 1970).

    Capital gains arising on ETF holdings are not income for tax purposes, unless the ETF is a non-reporting one.

    If you are issued with a notification to complete a tax return, you need to send one whether you owe tax or not.
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