Scottish Power blocking solar installation

Hi all, I'm new to this but would like to share my experience today of dealing with Scottish Power.  We have recently been exploring having a solar panel set and battery combo installed at our house, and although several installers say "its not a problem" I contacted Scottish Power (our provider) to double check.  what they tell me is stunningly offensive.  I cannot have a solar setup without a smart meter, I cannot have a smart meter as their installer isn't currently offering any dates for install in my area.  when I pushed this further I was told that its probably due to a phone signal issue.  Nope, sorry, don't believe them, we do not have a land line and the 3 occupants of our house all report 4 or 5G signals 99% of the time.   effectively Scottish Power are forcing us to remain on their electricity tariff, with costs rocketing, and they are preventing us from installing solar to combat the every increasing costs.  Has anyone else come across this blocking technique form their energy provider??

Comments

  • 70sbudgie
    70sbudgie Posts: 842 Forumite
    500 Posts Third Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    If Scottish Power have you on a capped tariff, perhaps it is worth contacting other suppliers?

    You may have to take a hit on short term prices, so you would need to do the sums to see whether the longer term benefit of PV (and a smart meter) would offset.
    4.3kW PV, 3.6kW inverter. Octopus Agile import, gas Tracker. Zoe. Ripple x 3. Cheshire
  • Reed_Richards
    Reed_Richards Posts: 5,251 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Where are you?  In the north it's a radio signal not a phone signal.  You need a smart meter to measure your export but if you were prepared to forego being paid for your export perhaps there wouldn't be a problem? 
    Reed
  • ispookie666
    ispookie666 Posts: 1,194 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    What has your utility provider got to do with solar install? DNO is the one who might raise objections. 
    There is no need for SEG to be with Scottish Power

    “Don't raise your voice, improve your argument." - Desmond Tutu

    System 1 - 14 x 250W SunModule SW + Enphase ME215 microinverters (July 2015)
    System 2 - 9.2 KWp + Enphase IQ7+ and IQ8AC (Feb 22 & Sep 24) + Givenergy AC Coupled inverter + 2 * 8.2KWh Battery (May 2022) + Mitsubishi 7.1 KW and 2* Daikin 2.5 KW A2A Heat Pump
  • Why would you call your utility provider about solar installation? Am I missing something here...
  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 17,260 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Fourth Anniversary Photogenic Name Dropper
    ... I contacted Scottish Power (our provider) to double check.  ... Has anyone else come across this blocking technique form their energy provider??
    I can only echo flyinggoose:
    Why would you call your utility provider about solar installation?
    It's none of their business.
    If you want SEG payments you will need an export meter, and this is usually achieved by fitting a smart meter. But that won't prevent you having a solar PV installation, with or without battery.
    N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
    2.72kWp PV facing SSW installed Jan 2012. 11 x 247w panels, 3.6kw inverter. 33MWh generated, long-term average 2.6 Os.
    Not exactly back from my break, but dipping in and out of the forum.
    Ofgem cap table, Ofgem cap explainer. Economy 7 cap explainer. Gas vs E7 vs peak elec heating costs, Best kettle!
  • Heedtheadvice
    Heedtheadvice Posts: 2,747 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 2 August 2022 at 7:58PM
    For information Scottish Power is possibly also the DNO. Though they will be different parts of Iberdrola the parent company.
    Perhaps there is a mix up and the SP people were the utility and were answering an assumed different question about agreeing to SEG.
    Whilst the DNO can refuse the higher power generation (G99 levels) they, if I remember correctly, cannot refuse the lower power (G98, 3.65kW) typical PV systems.

    OP are you certain you spoke to the correct contact and there was not a mixup?
    Irrespective of who your DNO is (it might not be Scottish Power in your area) a G98 compliant system still gets automatic approval. It has nothing to do with communications. Your installer simply notifies the DNO

    SEG (the current export payment) does require a smart meter to measure the export (as well as the import) and if one cannot be installed for you, whatever the reason currently, then they (the Utility provider not the region DNO ) cannot measure export and will thus not allow you to sign up for paid Solar PV. You can still install Solar.
  • Spies
    Spies Posts: 2,263 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    They can't dictate what you can and cannot have on your house. 

    A smart meter is not a requirement to have solar PV, likewise they are obligated to allow a minimum of 3.68kw to be fed back into the grid. 
    4.29kWp Solar system, 45/55 South/West split in cloudy rainy Cumbria. 
  • Heedtheadvice
    Heedtheadvice Posts: 2,747 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Ah yes 3.68kW .......not 3.65 I writ above.... :/
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 597.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.6K Life & Family
  • 256.4K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.