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Lenders will no longer have to apply an affordability assessment to their mortgage customers

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chanz4
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edited 19 July 2022 at 10:53AM in Mortgages & endowments
Lenders will no longer have to apply an affordability assessment to their mortgage customers from August 2022 following an announcement from the Bank of England to remove this rule. 

ACG @K_S
 
in real terms what does this mean, does it mean no long interviews going through spending with tooth combs?
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  • chanz4
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    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
  • K_S
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    chanz4 said:
    Lenders will no longer have to apply an affordability assessment to their mortgage customers from August 2022 following an announcement from the Bank of England to remove this rule. 

    ACG @K_S
     
    in real terms what does this mean, does it mean no long interviews going through spending with tooth combs?
    @chanz4 Are you talking about the BOE dropping the stress-test requirements? 
    https://www.mortgagesolutions.co.uk/news/2022/06/20/fpc-to-withdraw-mortgage-affordability-stress-test-from-august/

    If so, then that doesn't necessarily mean a huge change and certainly not the dropping of an affordability assessment. It might allow a few more products that permit higher Loan To Incomes than presently exist. 

    I am a Mortgage Adviser - You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. 

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  • chanz4
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    yeah thats what was querying as seems strange, any idea what will change then?
    Don't put your trust into an Experian score - it is not a number any bank will ever use & it is generally a waste of money to purchase it. They are also selling you insurance you dont need.
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    Seems a bonkers idea and only designed to serve the constuction industry, not consumers. 
    The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.
  • MWT
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    chanz4 said:
    Lenders will no longer have to apply an affordability assessment to their mortgage customers from August 2022 following an announcement from the Bank of England to remove this rule. 

    ACG @K_S
     
    in real terms what does this mean, does it mean no long interviews going through spending with tooth combs?
    This was a recommendation by the Financial Policy Committee, not a rule, and the FCA’s Mortgage Conduct of Business responsible lending rules remain in place, so I wouldn't expect any major shift in affordability assessments.



  • K_S
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    edited 19 July 2022 at 11:24AM
    chanz4 said:
    yeah thats what was querying as seems strange, any idea what will change then?
    @chanz4 To take an example -

    Currently - An applicant taking out a 2yr fixed-rate at 3% with a revert to rate of 5% would need to show they could afford the monthly repayments on a rate of 8%. That's the effect of the 3% BoE stress test, effectively putting a cap on what is deemed 'affordable' to that applicant. Lenders are already permitted to drop the BoE stress test for fixed rates of 5+ years, but most mainstream lenders (not all) still applied them in any case.

    After this stress test is dropped - banks can still choose to apply a stress test or not (subject to a +1% minimum mandated by the FCA) but the minimum in the above example drops from 8% to 6%. So this will give lenders a bit more flexibility to design products that allow enhanced borrowing compared to now, and for niche/smaller lenders to be more flexible with underwriting.

    Without going into a lot of detail, there are other regulations still in place that limit the number of high income multiple loans that lenders can advance so it's not going to a free-for-all in any shape or form.

    I would expect lenders to target any new products or underwriting flexibility at FTBs, young professionals, high-earners early in their careers, etc.

    I am a Mortgage Adviser - You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. 

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  • MWT
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    K_S said:
    I would expect lenders to target any new products or underwriting flexibility at FTBs, young professionals, high-earners early in their careers, etc.
    That would seem to be the most likely result of this change as it would otherwise be irresponsible to make a general shift in lending into a market with rising interest rates without some reasonable basis for assuming that income would similarly be increasing...

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    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • K_S
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    An example of a lender (Nationwide) enhancing potential max-borrowing after the dropping of the stress test, good for high-income PAYE applicants looking to maximise borrowing.


    I am a Mortgage Adviser - You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. 

    PLEASE DO NOT SEND PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.

  • thegentleway
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    K_S said:
    An example of a lender (Nationwide) enhancing potential max-borrowing after the dropping of the stress test, good for high-income PAYE applicants looking to maximise borrowing.


    Weren’t banks doing 5.5x already? Pretty sure Barclays said they’d lend us 5.5 times loan to income instead of their normal 4.5x in May
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