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Pensions in Scotland After independence

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Ann_Dale
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Will people in Scotland be able to get their pensions if the country becomes independent?
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  • JoeCrystal
    JoeCrystal Posts: 3,322 Forumite
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    No one got any ideas, frankly. Which pensions are you referring to anyway?
  • Marcon
    Marcon Posts: 14,380 Forumite
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    Ann_Dale said:
    Will people in Scotland be able to get their pensions if the country becomes independent?
    Can't see why not, but ask Nicola Sturgeon. 
    Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!  
  • indiasign
    indiasign Posts: 58 Forumite
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    Yes, because Scottish Widows will be nationalised, with any assets due to English pension funds seized and redistributed to Scots 😉
  • Ann_Dale said:
    Will people in Scotland be able to get their pensions if the country becomes independent?
    Everything except the State Pension, you would have to start contributing to the newly created Scottish State Pension.
  • theoretica
    theoretica Posts: 12,691 Forumite
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    I am sure the campaign to vote yes to independence will say that pensions will be unaffected, or improved.  I am also cynical about any electioneering promises.
    But a banker, engaged at enormous expense,
    Had the whole of their cash in his care.
    Lewis Carroll
  • Preacher64
    Preacher64 Posts: 101 Forumite
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    edited 14 July 2022 at 7:55PM
    The 2014 financial white paper produced by John Swinney conceded that there would be insufficient income from tax / NI with Scotland’s working persons demographic, civil service and welfare obligations to maintain the state pension at the rate at that time, and match UK increases going forward. The proposed solution was to support it through taxes raised from oil and gas revenues.

    With O&G now fallen out of favour, there is no conceivable way the state pension could be maintained in its current form without massive cuts in other areas of public spending, which could possibly result in means testing. Like the higher tax rates and lower thresholds, this would be proclaimed to be a “progressive policy”.

    Of course Mr Swinney also noted that the cost of living was lower in Scotland so pensions could reasonably be reduced without impacting on living standards.

    Given that the whole independence movement follows one person’s fixation and desire for sole control over every aspect, it is doomed to failure and would lead to a severe drop in wealth and standard of living for all who remain in Scotland.

    EDIT
    some information here
    https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/politics/snp-pension-deception-laid-bare-26130244
  • MK62
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    indiasign said:
    Yes, because Scottish Widows will be nationalised, with any assets due to English pension funds seized and redistributed to Scots 😉
    Unlikely.......more probable is a mass exodus of Scottish insurers to south of the border, where the majority of their customers are.......if not, well I wouldn't leave any of my pensions in a foreign country, and certainy not one run by the SNP......I suspect millions of other "rest of UK" pension holders might feel the same tbh.
  • indiasign
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    MK62 said:
    indiasign said:
    Yes, because Scottish Widows will be nationalised, with any assets due to English pension funds seized and redistributed to Scots 😉
    Unlikely.......more probable is a mass exodus of Scottish insurers to south of the border, where the majority of their customers are.......if not, well I wouldn't leave any of my pensions in a foreign country, and certainy not one run by the SNP......I suspect millions of other "rest of UK" pension holders might feel the same tbh.
    I wasn’t entirely (or even remotely) serious 😂
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