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Pension contributions Rollover of 40K limit

Does the ability to roll over the previous 3 years allowance apply in reverse is well?

For example if I put in 45k per year during the next 3 years using rollover from previous years, is my allowance in the 4th year 40K or something less?

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  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,548 Forumite
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    No. It's only carry forwards. If you exceed the AA with carry forwards you get taxed, it doesn't affect future years.

  • Pat38493
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    zagfles said:
    No. It's only carry forwards. If you exceed the AA with carry forwards you get taxed, it doesn't affect future years.

    So to be clear, I could contribute

    Y1 20K
    Y2 20K
    Y3 20K
    Y4 20K
    Y5 50K
    Y6 50K
    Y7 60K
    Y8 40K

    ?

  • wjr4
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    Pat38493 said:
    zagfles said:
    No. It's only carry forwards. If you exceed the AA with carry forwards you get taxed, it doesn't affect future years.

    So to be clear, I could contribute

    Y1 20K
    Y2 20K
    Y3 20K
    Y4 20K
    Y5 50K
    Y6 50K
    Y7 60K
    Y8 40K

    ?

    What are your relevant earnings?
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  • zagfles
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    Yes. Make sure you include employer contributions (if you're in a DB pension this is complicated). Also bear in mind the tax relief limit (100% of earnings) which is a different thing entirely.
  • dunstonh
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    So to be clear, I could contribute
    Y1 20K
    Y2 20K
    Y3 20K
    Y4 20K
    Y5 50K
    Y6 50K
    Y7 60K
    Y8 40K
    Assuming your income (if not company director) is in excess of each years contribution and you are not subject to tapering, that sequence would work

    Y1 20K
    Y2 20K
    Y3 20K
    Y4 20K
    Y5 50K - 10k c/f to y2.
    Y6 50K - 10k c/f to y3
    Y7 60K - 20k c/f to y4
    Y8 40K - no c/f available but £40k doesnt require it anyway.


    Does the ability to roll over the previous 3 years allowance apply in reverse is well?
    no.

    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • Pat38493
    Pat38493 Posts: 3,421 Forumite
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    edited 25 June 2022 at 10:07AM
    Thanks all, and yes I am aware that you have to have enough earnings to cover it and it includes the employer contributions.

    I also understood from a prior thread that earnings means earnings from employment, so you cannot use things like DB pension income or annuity income for this.
  • joep2
    joep2 Posts: 29 Forumite
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    HMRC have a calculator which might be useful:

    https://www.tax.service.gov.uk/pension-annual-allowance-calculator
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