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Solar panels and cancellation of your FIT by Ofgem

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  • ispookie666
    ispookie666 Posts: 1,194 Forumite
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    edited 21 June 2022 at 11:08PM
    I'm out of this discussion, too many inconsistencies in the story. 
    Your panels installed in 2016(4kwp) cannot be getting £1000 in FiT payment per year. 

    Sorry.. this whole thing looks more like confirmation bias. 

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  • jasee
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    jasee said:

    Interesting that you can limit your export, I've not heard of that. I can't see the point. 
    The point is to allow me to limit my export to the 3.68 kW allowed by the DNO as standard.  But as this is set in software I can set whatever limit I choose (although I have never tested this). 

    Hmm. Didn't know this, so theoretically, you could export almost all the output to your electricity supplier?
  • Pulpdiction
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    I think you've more or less exhausted this here.  On the face of it, there are a few facts that need to be relayed to OFGEM, whoever and if they don't play ball then go to the small claims court, on the fact of it they are:

    1. Intent - both parties intended to enter into this contract and there was an agreement
    2. You provided the certificate and were accepted on to the scheme, they were supposed to do the requisite checks and have accepted you onto the scheme, only identifying the issue 6 years later - unacceptable I would argue
    3. No ability to rectify and inflexible, think the courts will take a dim view of you not being allowed to correct the issue especially as they failed to do the correct checks and allowed you to participate in the scheme for 6 years before an issue was identified.
    4. Conduct - both parties acted as if they intended to be bound by the agreement and have done so for 6 years, for one to back out now based on their failure to ensure requisite due diligence would go against them.

    You should clearly state your case, advise them you are willing to get a certificate now, at your cost, to rectify this issue and if they refuse then take them to court. It will cost you £80 and you have everything to gain.  The failure was not yours, but of two other parties, one no longer exists but the other does and is capable of resolving this matter but chooses not to.
  • QrizB
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    jasee said:
    AFAIK FIT payments are linked to the current price of electricity not directly of course but from what I can recall they follow it?
    No, FIT payments do not follow the price of electricity. They are linked to the RPI index.
    https://www.ofgem.gov.uk/publications/feed-tariff-fit-tariff-table-1-april-2022
    It woul of course be nice if my installer was still around. I'd get him to renew his membership of RECC, maybe, only maybe I'd then be able to get a new MCS certificate and maybe only maybe my electricity company would maybe only maybe allow me to resume .payments if maybe only maybe Ofgem gave me a FID.
    That still wouldn't get your FIT back as the scheme is now closed.
    jasee said:
    But failing that my redress is against my electricity  company. Who have stopped paying me for that which they have been paying me for six years. In that respect nothing has chanbed
    I don't believe you have any claim whatsoever against your electricity company. They are following the scheme rules.
    I don't have a contract (according to Ofgem and MCS) their rules are not the rules of a contract. A contract is about supplying something to somebody and getting paid for it. I am still doing that, just they are not now paying what they have been paying for for the last six years
    The FIT scheme requires a MCS-certified system. You don't have one and so you're not supplying what the FIT scheme requires. I can't see that they have any obligation to pay you anything.
    Your panels installed in 2016(4kwp) cannot be getting £1000 in FiT payment per year.
    Per the current tariff table, a retrofit array installed in early 2016 could be earning 5.35p/kWh generated plus 5.99p/kWh exported. On 50% deemed export that's equivalent to 8.345p/kWh generated.
    A typical 4kWp array generating 4000kWk/yr would earn £333.80 per year.
    I'm out of this discussion
    Me too, sadly.
    OP, if you intend to take this beyond complaining to strangers on the internet, you need proper legal advice. If not contract law then public law.
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