Can I start my new job while still employed?

prowla

I've often overlapped jobs, using up holiday or lieu time at the end of one to effectively be paid double for the overlap.

I've never had a job which has August off every year - is it paid?

The only issue would be if they called you in to work for any reason.

There is no reason for your old job to know about the new one and the only complication for the new one is that you won't have your P45 on the starting date and so might go onto an emergency tax code (which will either sort itself out or you'll have to do a tax return).

JGB1955

In the 'old days' those of us who had a term time contract were allowed to claim JSA for the summer holidays - because we were only employed for c.45 weeks of the year.  I struggle to see how your current employer can have any say in the matter.

jackieblack

megmush said:

 As I will have completed the term time plus 5 days I don't want to lose the August pay as I have already earned it.

You wouldn’t lose it, that’s what the leaving calculation is for, it’s to calculate what you’re owed due to the way term time only staff are paid.

megmush

prowla said:

I've often overlapped jobs, using up holiday or lieu time at the end of one to effectively be paid double for the overlap.

I've never had a job which has August off every year - is it paid?

The only issue would be if they called you in to work for any reason.

There is no reason for your old job to know about the new one and the only complication for the new one is that you won't have your P45 on the starting date and so might go onto an emergency tax code (which will either sort itself out or you'll have to do a tax return).

I do get paid in August but it's basically that my annual earning get divided into 12 monthly payments so you're not left in anpsition where you don't get paid for 6 weeks. I am contracted term time (39 weeks) plus 5 days.

My current place of employment have told me I have to give them my start date in my new role but I was under the impression I just had to give them my end date. 

jackieblack

prowla said:

I've never had a job which has August off every year - is it paid?

The norm, for school staff who are contracted to work term time only (either 38 or 39 weeks, depending on whether inset days are included) is that they are paid for those 38/39 weeks plus a pro-rata amount of holiday pay.  For various reasons, (not least because budgeting would be a nightmare if they were paid for the hours they had worked each month) the annual amount is calculated and split equally over 12 monthly pay days.  So you’re paid in August, but not for August.  Effectively (assuming the job starts in September) August’s pay is money that is owed for hours worked September - July, inc a small amount of holiday pay.

Consequently, when a member of staff leaves part way through the school year the payroll person should do a calculation to determine how much has been earned from the hours worked during the school year, plus the appropriate holiday pay, and then deduct the amount the employee has actually been paid, to work out what is owed.

General_Grant

megmush said:

prowla said:

I've often overlapped jobs, using up holiday or lieu time at the end of one to effectively be paid double for the overlap.

I've never had a job which has August off every year - is it paid?

The only issue would be if they called you in to work for any reason.

There is no reason for your old job to know about the new one and the only complication for the new one is that you won't have your P45 on the starting date and so might go onto an emergency tax code (which will either sort itself out or you'll have to do a tax return).

I do get paid in August but it's basically that my annual earning get divided into 12 monthly payments so you're not left in anpsition where you don't get paid for 6 weeks. I am contracted term time (39 weeks) plus 5 days.

My current place of employment have told me I have to give them my start date in my new role but I was under the impression I just had to give them my end date. 

Your employment start date with your new employer is of no consequence to your current one.  Just resign and give notice (in terms of length of time) as required by your contract.

You aren't even in a commercial organisation where a new employer could be in competition with them and there could be some justification for not being employed by both at the same time.

Savvy_Sue

They may be relying on a not uncommon clause in the employment contract which says you won't take on other employment. But I'd be tempted to ask what they're going to do about it, sack you? And not give the date.

megmush

Savvy_Sue said:

They may be relying on a not uncommon clause in the employment contract which says you won't take on other employment. But I'd be tempted to ask what they're going to do about it, sack you? And not give the date.

I'm going to dig out my contract and see if that says anything in it.