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  • RG2015
    RG2015 Posts: 6,056 Forumite
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    I have just noticed that they are reporting two different amounts for my SP, £8,757 and £8,589.

    How your tax-free amount is calculated

    Personal Allowance
    The amount is£12,570

    Additions

    Marriage Allowance received from spouse/civil partner
    £1,260
    Total additions
    £1,260

    Deductions

    Estimated tax you owe this year We estimate you have underpaid £286.00 tax
    £1,725
    State Pension
    £8,589
    Total deductions
    £10,314
    Your total tax-free amount
    The amount is£3,516
  • Dazed_and_C0nfused
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    RG2015 said:
    Can I expect my State Pension to be correctly reported on my PTA online once the DWP have officially notified HMRC.

    At the moment they are reporting it as an estimated amount.

    Your income from other sources

    StatePension

    Your estimated taxable income is£8,757

    Update or remove


    Quite probably.  But maybe only if you have a new tax code calculation.

    But isn't £8,757 an accurate figure?

    https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/paye-manual/paye130067
  • RG2015
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    RG2015 said:
    Can I expect my State Pension to be correctly reported on my PTA online once the DWP have officially notified HMRC.

    At the moment they are reporting it as an estimated amount.

    Your income from other sources

    StatePension

    Your estimated taxable income is£8,757

    Update or remove


    Quite probably.  But maybe only if you have a new tax code calculation.

    But isn't £8,757 an accurate figure?

    https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/paye-manual/paye130067
    Yes, but see my later post where the figure is £8,589.
  • Dazed_and_C0nfused
    Dazed_and_C0nfused Posts: 17,648 Forumite
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    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    Can I expect my State Pension to be correctly reported on my PTA online once the DWP have officially notified HMRC.

    At the moment they are reporting it as an estimated amount.

    Your income from other sources

    StatePension

    Your estimated taxable income is£8,757

    Update or remove


    Quite probably.  But maybe only if you have a new tax code calculation.

    But isn't £8,757 an accurate figure?

    https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/paye-manual/paye130067
    Yes, but see my later post where the figure is £8,589.
    That's a new one on me!

    Maybe DWP have just reported the pension to HMRC and a revised code is going to be calculated?

    But that's guesswork, only HMRC will know for certain.
  • RG2015
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    edited 8 June 2022 at 5:53PM
    RG2015 said:
    RG2015 said:
    Can I expect my State Pension to be correctly reported on my PTA online once the DWP have officially notified HMRC.

    At the moment they are reporting it as an estimated amount.

    Your income from other sources

    StatePension

    Your estimated taxable income is£8,757

    Update or remove


    Quite probably.  But maybe only if you have a new tax code calculation.

    But isn't £8,757 an accurate figure?

    https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/paye-manual/paye130067
    Yes, but see my later post where the figure is £8,589.
    That's a new one on me!

    Maybe DWP have just reported the pension to HMRC and a revised code is going to be calculated?

    But that's guesswork, only HMRC will know for certain.
    The difference is very close to 1 week's pension so may be some esoteric HMRC rounding/annual adjustment.

    £8,757 - £8,589 = £168.

    The current weekly amount is £168.52 

    PS. As my good friend @polymaff recently said, it's all part of driving back brain decay. 
  • RG2015
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    I have a question about what I can see on my PTA regarding my state pension. Currently all I see is the figure I gave HMRC over the phone.
     
    In particular, once the DWP report my state pension to HMRC, do the actual 4 weekly payments appear on my PTA online?


  • molerat
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    All your tax account will show is the annual amount, often 2 different ones in different places, but the deduction from tax code is usually 51 x new + 1 x old rate.
  • RG2015
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    molerat said:
    All your tax account will show is the annual amount, often 2 different ones in different places, but the deduction from tax code is usually 51 x new + 1 x old rate.
    Thanks.

    I gave them my week 1 amount and my current weekly amount, and the annual amounts on my PTA are approximately 52 weeks and 51 weeks, in different places.

    With regard to the DWP reporting my “actual” figures, I guess HMRC already have them from me. Therefore nothing more will change until the year has finished.
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