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Sunak announces 0% VAT on energy-saving materials

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  • arty688
    arty688 Posts: 414 Forumite
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    But without the 60/40 rule ?

    So would 1 panel and a battery count as a system?

    8kw system spread over 6 roofs , surrounded by trees and in a valley.
  • 94JDH
    94JDH Posts: 146 Forumite
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    arty688 said:
    But without the 60/40 rule ?

    So would 1 panel and a battery count as a system?

    I'm sure there will be a work around, there was for the 60/40 rule -installers were just splitting the cost to get to that figure previously.
    PV total 19.8 kW system:
    23 x 420W East/West split over two flat roof areas at 10 degrees inclination.
    13 x 390W South spit over two flat roof areas at 5 to 20 degrees inclination.
    6 x 390W south wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    7 x 390W West wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    2 x 5 kW hybrid inverters
    4 x 9.5 kWh batteries (38 kWh total)
  • 94JDH said:
    arty688 said:
    But without the 60/40 rule ?

    So would 1 panel and a battery count as a system?

    I'm sure there will be a work around, there was for the 60/40 rule -installers were just splitting the cost to get to that figure previously.
    I suspect with full other books, most installers will be reluctant. Installing batteries is a relatively straightforward 1/2 days work. Adding solar panels is a lot more hassle and potential uncertainty e.g. scaffolding, weather, surveys etc. 
  • 94JDH
    94JDH Posts: 146 Forumite
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    94JDH said:
    arty688 said:
    But without the 60/40 rule ?

    So would 1 panel and a battery count as a system?

    I'm sure there will be a work around, there was for the 60/40 rule -installers were just splitting the cost to get to that figure previously.
    I suspect with full other books, most installers will be reluctant. Installing batteries is a relatively straightforward 1/2 days work. Adding solar panels is a lot more hassle and potential uncertainty e.g. scaffolding, weather, surveys etc. 
    And that's the likely issue- they can pick and choose at the moment because they are so busy.
    PV total 19.8 kW system:
    23 x 420W East/West split over two flat roof areas at 10 degrees inclination.
    13 x 390W South spit over two flat roof areas at 5 to 20 degrees inclination.
    6 x 390W south wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    7 x 390W West wall mounted at 90 degrees inclination.
    2 x 5 kW hybrid inverters
    4 x 9.5 kWh batteries (38 kWh total)
  • SteveI99
    SteveI99 Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Just seen this from the official HMRC notes 

    The changes will reverse the 2019 legislative changes and widen the scope of the relief as set out below for installations of ESMs in Great Britain:

    The relief will no longer be restricted by the social policy conditions or the 60% test

    Wind and water turbines will be added back to the list of ESMs

    A temporary zero rate will be introduced with effect from 1 April 2022 until 31 March

    2027

    Unless the government introduces further legislation to extend the period of the zero

    rate, the installation of ESMs will revert back to the 5% reduced rate from 1 April 2027


  • QrizB
    QrizB Posts: 18,783 Forumite
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    Bad news for DIYers, it seems the reduced rate of VAT only applies to installed products :(
    ... where it says:

    Who is likely to be affected

    Businesses that provide and install energy-saving materials (ESMs) and customers who have the ESMs installed in England and Wales and Scotland.

    and
    This measure expands the VAT relief for ESMs available for domestic installations in Great Britain
    and

    Impact on individuals, households and families

    This measure will positively impact individuals through lower prices charged by ESM installers, subject to the degree to which these businesses pass the VAT savings on to their customers.
    Oh well.
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