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Help With Permitted Years for Class 3 Voluntary NIC's

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Secret2ndAccount
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With my Sister, we have diligently worked through her pension predictions, NI contributions, and back-and-fore with HMRC.
We have established that she can usefully pay 5 years up to 2016, and I have a letter from HMRC pricing them at 5 x £800.80

She also needs to pay 3 years post 2016, and I am trying to work out the cheapest way to do this. Gov.uk says
2021-22     2020-21      2019-20      2018-19
  800.8       795.6      780       761.8
and that she can use these prices going back 2 years.
Can somebody who is absolutely certain, please tell me which years I can use if we get the payment in before April. Obviously I would like to use the cheapest, which I'm thinking would be 795.6 + 780 + pick-a-year at 800.8, but I would appreciate the word of an expert.
Thanks

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  • JGB1955
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    Has she/you spoken to the Future Pensions people - they will be the ones who can tell her which are the best years to pay...
    Contact the Future Pension Centre - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
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  • Secret2ndAccount
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    edited 1 March 2022 at 7:44PM
    JGB1955 said:
    Has she/you spoken to the Future Pensions people - they will be the ones who can tell her which are the best years to pay...
    Contact the Future Pension Centre - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
    She won't do anything. Either I do it, or it doesn't get done. They won't speak to me. I've been doing everything by letter, but I fear another round of letters will take us past April 5th. My question at this point is generic - not specific to her case. I feel there is someone around here who knows the answer.
  • molerat
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    edited 1 March 2022 at 8:01PM
    The NI history part of the SP forecast will show you the correct amounts applicable up to April this year.  18-19 will now be a current price year at £800.80 as it is outside the 2 year protection window. 19-20 and 20-21 will still be at the in year price shown, 20-21 staying at that price until April 23 and 19-20 (and 18-19) going up to £824.20 this April.  She will likely have difficulty actually being able to pay for 21-22 before year end. If paying before this April it looks like 19-20, 20-21 then 18-19.  When does she reach SRA ?
    and I have a letter from HMRC pricing them at 5 x £808.60
    Are you sure ?

  • Secret2ndAccount
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    edited 1 March 2022 at 8:13PM
    molerat said:
    The NI history part of the SP forecast will show you the correct amounts applicable up to April this year.  18-19 will now be a current price year at £800.80 as it is outside the 2 year protection window. 19-20 and 20-21 will still be at the in year price shown, 20-21 staying at that price until April 23 and 19-20 (and 18-19) going up to £824.20 this April.  She will likely have difficulty actually being able to pay for 21-22 before year end. If paying before this April it looks like 19-20, 20-21 then 18-19.  When does she reach SRA ?
    That's what I thought. Thanks. SRA 2023
    molerat said:
    and I have a letter from HMRC pricing them at 5 x £808.60
    Are you sure ?

    5 x 800.80. Brainfade. Well spotted. 
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