Set up a direct debit now with your local authority to ensure you get the £150 council tax rebate

p00hsticks

TerryMSE said:

So this is aimed at helping those on low income to get through hardship with cost of living bills, just spoke to my local council Tameside who inform me my £150 will be paid any time between April and September and I already pay my council tax via DD so have an account set up.
How is this going to help the most vulnerable if they have to wait six months for the payment, they did not tell us this when it was announced did they.

You could argue that next Autumn is exactly when households are likely to most need it, to meet the next round of energy price rises going into winter....

masonic

p00hsticks said:

TerryMSE said:

So this is aimed at helping those on low income to get through hardship with cost of living bills, just spoke to my local council Tameside who inform me my £150 will be paid any time between April and September and I already pay my council tax via DD so have an account set up.
How is this going to help the most vulnerable if they have to wait six months for the payment, they did not tell us this when it was announced did they.

You could argue that next Autumn is exactly when households are likely to most need it, to meet the next round of energy price rises going into winter....

While it's certainly true things are going to get worse in October, being promised help in April and not getting it is justifiable grounds for being upset. I wonder how many people who were only just coping will become destitute between now and then. I don't know whether or not being evicted and falling off the council tax register between now and September would disqualify you from the money, nor whether it would be paid into the estate of frail elderly people who are unable to add credit to their prepayment meters and die of hypothermia in the coming weeks. That said, most households don't really need this payment, so perhaps we should put such uncommon scenarios out of our minds?

lincroft1710

masonic said:

p00hsticks said:

TerryMSE said:

So this is aimed at helping those on low income to get through hardship with cost of living bills, just spoke to my local council Tameside who inform me my £150 will be paid any time between April and September and I already pay my council tax via DD so have an account set up.
How is this going to help the most vulnerable if they have to wait six months for the payment, they did not tell us this when it was announced did they.

You could argue that next Autumn is exactly when households are likely to most need it, to meet the next round of energy price rises going into winter....

While it's certainly true things are going to get worse in October, being promised help in April and not getting it is justifiable grounds for being upset. I wonder how many people who were only just coping will become destitute between now and then. I don't know whether or not being evicted and falling off the council tax register between now and September would disqualify you from the money, nor whether it would be paid into the estate of frail elderly people who are unable to add credit to their prepayment meters and die of hypothermia in the coming weeks. That said, most households don't really need this payment, so perhaps we should put such uncommon scenarios out of our minds?

£150 won't go far in helping with energy bills. If it used up by September then what will happen during October to March the coldest half of the year.


It takes months for a person  to be evicted from their home even when proper notice is served 

masonic

lincroft1710 said:

masonic said:

p00hsticks said:

TerryMSE said:

So this is aimed at helping those on low income to get through hardship with cost of living bills, just spoke to my local council Tameside who inform me my £150 will be paid any time between April and September and I already pay my council tax via DD so have an account set up.
How is this going to help the most vulnerable if they have to wait six months for the payment, they did not tell us this when it was announced did they.

You could argue that next Autumn is exactly when households are likely to most need it, to meet the next round of energy price rises going into winter....

While it's certainly true things are going to get worse in October, being promised help in April and not getting it is justifiable grounds for being upset. I wonder how many people who were only just coping will become destitute between now and then. I don't know whether or not being evicted and falling off the council tax register between now and September would disqualify you from the money, nor whether it would be paid into the estate of frail elderly people who are unable to add credit to their prepayment meters and die of hypothermia in the coming weeks. That said, most households don't really need this payment, so perhaps we should put such uncommon scenarios out of our minds?

£150 won't go far in helping with energy bills. If it used up by September then what will happen during October to March the coldest half of the year.

It takes months for a person  to be evicted from their home even when proper notice is served 

The £200 loan kicks in from October. Agree with you that it is only a matter of time for some people, but I don't subscribe to the 'rather sooner than later' attitude.

I cannot believe anyone with a shred of humanity can defend a council withholding support, even for a few months. This money has been promised in April and energy suppliers manage monthly bills in order to spread costs over 12 months.

It is utterly beyond my belief how callous some people are. It's shameful. Even the famously apolitical Martin Lewis is calling this out.

lincroft1710

masonic said:

lincroft1710 said:

masonic said:

p00hsticks said:

TerryMSE said:

So this is aimed at helping those on low income to get through hardship with cost of living bills, just spoke to my local council Tameside who inform me my £150 will be paid any time between April and September and I already pay my council tax via DD so have an account set up.
How is this going to help the most vulnerable if they have to wait six months for the payment, they did not tell us this when it was announced did they.

You could argue that next Autumn is exactly when households are likely to most need it, to meet the next round of energy price rises going into winter....

While it's certainly true things are going to get worse in October, being promised help in April and not getting it is justifiable grounds for being upset. I wonder how many people who were only just coping will become destitute between now and then. I don't know whether or not being evicted and falling off the council tax register between now and September would disqualify you from the money, nor whether it would be paid into the estate of frail elderly people who are unable to add credit to their prepayment meters and die of hypothermia in the coming weeks. That said, most households don't really need this payment, so perhaps we should put such uncommon scenarios out of our minds?

£150 won't go far in helping with energy bills. If it used up by September then what will happen during October to March the coldest half of the year.

It takes months for a person  to be evicted from their home even when proper notice is served 

The £200 loan kicks in from October. Agree with you that it is only a matter of time for some people, but I don't subscribe to the 'rather sooner than later' attitude.

I cannot believe anyone with a shred of humanity can defend a council withholding support, even for a few months. This money has been promised in April and energy suppliers manage monthly bills in order to spread costs over 12 months.

It is utterly beyond my belief how callous some people are. It's shameful. Even the famously apolitical Martin Lewis is calling this out.

I don't think anyone is defending the council.


We don't know that they are withholding support, all we have been told is that it could take up to September for all those eligible to be paid, which doesn't necessarily mean most won't be paid in April. If the council doesn't pay most eligible taxpayers in April then it is time to get the MP(s) involved.


If people are in such poverty they need this £150 immediately, I cannot see how they can afford to repay a £200 loan. And that is a criticism of the loan system not the people! 

masonic

lincroft1710 said:

masonic said:

lincroft1710 said:

masonic said:

p00hsticks said:

TerryMSE said:

So this is aimed at helping those on low income to get through hardship with cost of living bills, just spoke to my local council Tameside who inform me my £150 will be paid any time between April and September and I already pay my council tax via DD so have an account set up.
How is this going to help the most vulnerable if they have to wait six months for the payment, they did not tell us this when it was announced did they.

You could argue that next Autumn is exactly when households are likely to most need it, to meet the next round of energy price rises going into winter....

While it's certainly true things are going to get worse in October, being promised help in April and not getting it is justifiable grounds for being upset. I wonder how many people who were only just coping will become destitute between now and then. I don't know whether or not being evicted and falling off the council tax register between now and September would disqualify you from the money, nor whether it would be paid into the estate of frail elderly people who are unable to add credit to their prepayment meters and die of hypothermia in the coming weeks. That said, most households don't really need this payment, so perhaps we should put such uncommon scenarios out of our minds?

£150 won't go far in helping with energy bills. If it used up by September then what will happen during October to March the coldest half of the year.

It takes months for a person  to be evicted from their home even when proper notice is served 

The £200 loan kicks in from October. Agree with you that it is only a matter of time for some people, but I don't subscribe to the 'rather sooner than later' attitude.

I cannot believe anyone with a shred of humanity can defend a council withholding support, even for a few months. This money has been promised in April and energy suppliers manage monthly bills in order to spread costs over 12 months.

It is utterly beyond my belief how callous some people are. It's shameful. Even the famously apolitical Martin Lewis is calling this out.

I don't think anyone is defending the council.

We don't know that they are withholding support, all we have been told is that it could take up to September for all those eligible to be paid, which doesn't necessarily mean most won't be paid in April. If the council doesn't pay most eligible taxpayers in April then it is time to get the MP(s) involved.

Fair point. The Goverment was clear that it expected the payment to be made as soon as possible after the first council tax installment was received for this year, serving as validation of bank details. If some councils are intending to make the payments in batches over a 6 month time period, then that really doesn't seem acceptable, but who knows what was meant by 'any time between April and September'.

lincroft1710 said:

If people are in such poverty they need this £150 immediately, I cannot see how they can afford to repay a £200 loan. And that is a criticism of the loan system not the people!

Agree the loan is quite a farce. Presumably the reasoning was that prices will fall in the future and that will make repayment easier (or it will be a problem for another government to deal with). But the whole concept is about as popular as poll tax. There's still plenty of time to u-turn, and they may well see pressure beyond which even Marcus Rashford could bring to bear.

Jeremy535897

masonic said:

lincroft1710 said:

masonic said:

lincroft1710 said:

masonic said:

p00hsticks said:

TerryMSE said:

So this is aimed at helping those on low income to get through hardship with cost of living bills, just spoke to my local council Tameside who inform me my £150 will be paid any time between April and September and I already pay my council tax via DD so have an account set up.
How is this going to help the most vulnerable if they have to wait six months for the payment, they did not tell us this when it was announced did they.

You could argue that next Autumn is exactly when households are likely to most need it, to meet the next round of energy price rises going into winter....

While it's certainly true things are going to get worse in October, being promised help in April and not getting it is justifiable grounds for being upset. I wonder how many people who were only just coping will become destitute between now and then. I don't know whether or not being evicted and falling off the council tax register between now and September would disqualify you from the money, nor whether it would be paid into the estate of frail elderly people who are unable to add credit to their prepayment meters and die of hypothermia in the coming weeks. That said, most households don't really need this payment, so perhaps we should put such uncommon scenarios out of our minds?

£150 won't go far in helping with energy bills. If it used up by September then what will happen during October to March the coldest half of the year.

It takes months for a person  to be evicted from their home even when proper notice is served 

The £200 loan kicks in from October. Agree with you that it is only a matter of time for some people, but I don't subscribe to the 'rather sooner than later' attitude.

I cannot believe anyone with a shred of humanity can defend a council withholding support, even for a few months. This money has been promised in April and energy suppliers manage monthly bills in order to spread costs over 12 months.

It is utterly beyond my belief how callous some people are. It's shameful. Even the famously apolitical Martin Lewis is calling this out.

I don't think anyone is defending the council.

We don't know that they are withholding support, all we have been told is that it could take up to September for all those eligible to be paid, which doesn't necessarily mean most won't be paid in April. If the council doesn't pay most eligible taxpayers in April then it is time to get the MP(s) involved.

Fair point. The Goverment was clear that it expected the payment to be made as soon as possible after the first council tax installment was received for this year, serving as validation of bank details. If some councils are intending to make the payments in batches over a 6 month time period, then that really doesn't seem acceptable, but who knows what was meant by 'any time between April and September'.

lincroft1710 said:

If people are in such poverty they need this £150 immediately, I cannot see how they can afford to repay a £200 loan. And that is a criticism of the loan system not the people!

Agree the loan is quite a farce. Presumably the reasoning was that prices will fall in the future and that will make repayment easier (or it will be a problem for another government to deal with). But the whole concept is about as popular as poll tax. There's still plenty of time to u-turn, and they may well see pressure beyond which even Marcus Rashford could bring to bear.

It is not a loan. It is a reduction of £200 followed by 5 annual payments of £40, which may well be paid by someone else if the original recipient has moved, although then they are likely to take on the same annual payment on where they move to.

masonic

Jeremy535897 said:

masonic said:

lincroft1710 said:

masonic said:

lincroft1710 said:

masonic said:

p00hsticks said:

TerryMSE said:

So this is aimed at helping those on low income to get through hardship with cost of living bills, just spoke to my local council Tameside who inform me my £150 will be paid any time between April and September and I already pay my council tax via DD so have an account set up.
How is this going to help the most vulnerable if they have to wait six months for the payment, they did not tell us this when it was announced did they.

You could argue that next Autumn is exactly when households are likely to most need it, to meet the next round of energy price rises going into winter....

While it's certainly true things are going to get worse in October, being promised help in April and not getting it is justifiable grounds for being upset. I wonder how many people who were only just coping will become destitute between now and then. I don't know whether or not being evicted and falling off the council tax register between now and September would disqualify you from the money, nor whether it would be paid into the estate of frail elderly people who are unable to add credit to their prepayment meters and die of hypothermia in the coming weeks. That said, most households don't really need this payment, so perhaps we should put such uncommon scenarios out of our minds?

£150 won't go far in helping with energy bills. If it used up by September then what will happen during October to March the coldest half of the year.

It takes months for a person  to be evicted from their home even when proper notice is served 

The £200 loan kicks in from October. Agree with you that it is only a matter of time for some people, but I don't subscribe to the 'rather sooner than later' attitude.

I cannot believe anyone with a shred of humanity can defend a council withholding support, even for a few months. This money has been promised in April and energy suppliers manage monthly bills in order to spread costs over 12 months.

It is utterly beyond my belief how callous some people are. It's shameful. Even the famously apolitical Martin Lewis is calling this out.

I don't think anyone is defending the council.

We don't know that they are withholding support, all we have been told is that it could take up to September for all those eligible to be paid, which doesn't necessarily mean most won't be paid in April. If the council doesn't pay most eligible taxpayers in April then it is time to get the MP(s) involved.

Fair point. The Goverment was clear that it expected the payment to be made as soon as possible after the first council tax installment was received for this year, serving as validation of bank details. If some councils are intending to make the payments in batches over a 6 month time period, then that really doesn't seem acceptable, but who knows what was meant by 'any time between April and September'.

lincroft1710 said:

If people are in such poverty they need this £150 immediately, I cannot see how they can afford to repay a £200 loan. And that is a criticism of the loan system not the people!

Agree the loan is quite a farce. Presumably the reasoning was that prices will fall in the future and that will make repayment easier (or it will be a problem for another government to deal with). But the whole concept is about as popular as poll tax. There's still plenty of time to u-turn, and they may well see pressure beyond which even Marcus Rashford could bring to bear.

It is not a loan. It is a reduction of £200 followed by 5 annual payments of £40, which may well be paid by someone else if the original recipient has moved, although then they are likely to take on the same annual payment on where they move to.

I know that, I was just using the term 'loan' for brevity. I've referred to it as a discount+tax elsewhere, but I don't think that terminology is going to catch on. Clearly there will be some losers, e.g those who split off into a new household next year or beyond.

lukea_a

If I moved out of my property on 3rd April - but paid Council tax up until that date. Do I still qualify for the £150 rebate?

Jeremy535897

You should do.