London's 'ULEZ' clean air zone expands from 25 October and motorists with older vehicles may now be

Former_MSE_Sophie

Motorists with older vehicles should check if they'll now be charged £12.50/day to drive within London's soon to be expanded 'Ultra Low Emissions Zone (ULEZ)'. 

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London's 'ULEZ' clean air zone expands from 25 October and motorists with older vehicles may now be charged £12.50/day

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patient_dream

It's just the idiots and the Mayor of London suffering with brain fog

I used to love going to London, only 35 miles away, NEVER AGAIN ..... 
And you know Sadiq Khan ..... I will not bow down to your rubbish.

If you want to be involved in a scam, try the BPA or IPC.  If you can afford the membership fee, you will become part of an elite scam industry

KeithP

patient_dream said:

If you want to be involved in a scam, try the BPA or IPC.  If you can afford the membership fee, you will become part of an elite scam industry

These London boroughs are already members of the BPA...

patient_dream

KeithP said:

patient_dream said:

If you want to be involved in a scam, try the BPA or IPC.  If you can afford the membership fee, you will become part of an elite scam industry

These London boroughs are already members of the BPA...

FOOLS to the extreme ?

fisherjim

Nothing to do with clean air, all to do with money, and a Mayor with little brains

Le_Kirk

I suppose the theory is that motorists will not take their "dirty" cars into London but for those who do, how does paying £12.50 clean up the air?  Does the money go to buying air scrubbers or into the coffers of the mayor's office?

mr_jrt

The point of the charge is to act as an incentive to use alternatives (i.e. public transport or to buy a cleaner vehicle), not to negate the harm. Same way the funding from the tax on cigarettes doesn't go to lung cancer treatment. Do you complain that that air passenger duty doesn't go into funding similar air cleaning measures?

The climate is deteriorating, and most people don't care. Thousands of people die every year from airborne pollution, but as long as it's someone else's child, most people don't care. The only thing most people do care about is their wallets. So taxes are used to encourage desired behaviour. Sadly, it's the only thing that seems to work.

Le_Kirk

Good points you make @mr_jrt but surely an outright ban would achieve the desired outcome!

Jenni_D

Worth discussing ... but here in the Parking board? Why have MSE posted this thread here? Surely it would be better in Motoring?

DerektheDonkey

Martin's article states that you only have to pay whilst driving in the zone as the car will be captured by camera. Advice I was given by numerous persons living in London was that the cameras were only placed across the junctions with the A205 and A405, the South & North Circular respectively, and not within the zone.

Does anybody have any details about a definitive link to which it is. Thank you.


If I drive into the zone on a Monday, park up a few days then drive out of it on a Friday then do I have to pay 5 days?
OR
Will I just have to pay the 2 days, the Monday and Friday
OR
Is it only when your car is captured on camera meaning if I moved the car and drove around inner South East London on the Tuesday, as an example, it could capture the car on camera and I need to pay for that day? This assumes there are ULEZ cameras abound.

MacPingu1986

My reading is that the charge applies any day where you are driving within the zone, so driving in on Monday, park up, then drive out on Friday - 2 days of charge. Charge applies whether or not your vehicle is caught on any cameras (although that's of course the main means of enforcement). Penalty charges apply when you don't promptly pay for any days driving in the zone so avoiding payment on the basis you don't think you've driven past any cameras is going to be pretty risky.