📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Taking a shorter train journey than I've booked

Options
I've got an LNER Flat Fare return ticket London to Inverness. What will happen if I try to just disembark and board at Aviemore? I see nothing in the terms and conditions to say I can't do this. But I'm wondering if I'll have problems at a ticket barrier at Aviemore.

Thanks.
«1

Comments

  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 13,586 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    No such thing as a 'flat fare' ticket.  What is the actual type of ticket you have bought?
  • Chomeur
    Chomeur Posts: 2,159 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts


    I have two "LNER Flat Fare Single" tickets. The above is a screenshot.
  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 13,586 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    The "Flat Fare" is LNER marketing.

    You need to check what restrictions it has and whether it is in fact an Advance fare restricted ficket, or a more expensive ticket offering some flexibility,
  • Chomeur
    Chomeur Posts: 2,159 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    Well these are the terms and conditions that they provide. Nothing to say that you can't shorten your journey. I can print them out to take them along with me. Even so, I could imagine getting into an argument with them at the ticket barrier, and I'm not sure where that would end up.

    "

    LNER FLAT FARE

    Your journey must start and end on a National Rail service

    Route

    Valid only on London North Eastern Railway services.

    Terms & conditions

    Valid on selected train only

    • Type of ticket

      London North Eastern Railway Flat Fare Standard

    • Terms & conditions

      Valid on selected train only
    • Ticket type description

      London North Eastern Railway Flat Fare Standard

    • Restriction code

      GA
    • Route

      Valid only on London North Eastern Railway services.
    • Fare category

      restricted

    • Terms & conditions

      Travel on the date and time shown on the ticket

    • Ticket availability terms

      Subject to availability

    • Ticket retail availability

      WebTIS

    • Booking deadlines

      Prior to reservations closing

    • Changes to travel plans restrictions

      No changes

    • Refund details

      No refunds"

  • It looks like you have booked an Advance ticket as it states 'Valid on selected train only'.

    The LNER terms and conditions online for Advance tickets say that: "
    You may not start, break and resume, or end your journey at an intermediate station except to change to/from appropriate connecting trains where these are shown on your ticket(s) or other official itinerary.

    https://www.lner.co.uk/tickets-savings/your-ticket/train-ticket-options/advance-tickets/

    "Think of many things, do one"
    Mortgage 30 Jul'25 est. £209,749 £309,749 (aiming for sub-£200k next)
    Seven Goals; 12.5lbs lost in 4 months (5.5lbs to go); walk/run/exercising/weights/yoga 

  • Chomeur
    Chomeur Posts: 2,159 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    The terms and conditions are those that I have quoted, not those for another type of ticket that might look similar.
  • jon81uk
    jon81uk Posts: 3,894 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Chomeur said:
    The terms and conditions are those that I have quoted, not those for another type of ticket that might look similar.

    if you are that confident you know the answer, why have you asked the question on here?

    I would agree like SandyShores it reads as an advance ticket and these terms apply.
    https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46546.aspx

  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Chomeur said:
    I could imagine getting into an argument with them at the ticket barrier...
    I can't imagine that happening. There are no barriers at Aviemore.
  • Chomeur
    Chomeur Posts: 2,159 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    edited 22 September 2021 at 9:47AM
    jon81uk said:
    Chomeur said:
    The terms and conditions are those that I have quoted, not those for another type of ticket that might look similar.

    if you are that confident you know the answer, why have you asked the question on here?

    I would agree like SandyShores it reads as an advance ticket and these terms apply.
    https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46546.aspx

    I wanted to rehearse my arguments :)

    No, seriously, I have formed my view of the answer since posting on here.
  • Chomeur
    Chomeur Posts: 2,159 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    KeithP said:
    Chomeur said:
    I could imagine getting into an argument with them at the ticket barrier...
    I can't imagine that happening. There are no barriers at Aviemore.
    Thanks, that should solve the problem.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.2K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.7K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.2K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.2K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177K Life & Family
  • 257.6K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.