Pay rises

F37A

Dakta said:

What would I do? Build the experience at their expense with a view to benefiting personally from it elsewhere at a future date. Make sure it's logged on my record/in job title (this can be done for free to doesn't always meet resistance)

Not all rewards are monetary, and some rewards are work.

Finding it difficult as once I passed over my hard work for free to someone else my firm won't need me or have to pay me more

68ComebackSpecial

F37A said:

Hi 

Head of dept hires his mates into senior jobs ie cronyism. He hands them big pay packets. 

Line manager gets me to line manage a member of staff but pay me as an analyst. Of course the other managers who are mates of the head of dept get much bigger pay than me when effectively I would be doing same work.

What would you do in this situation. This frustrates me as I am deliberately not paid fairly. 

Can move jobs, grievance etc. I can't move jobs is my situation. 

If you are only managing one person then I wouldn't necessarily view this as a movement to a full management level position and a resulting uplift in salary. Sounds more like a step in widening your skills with a view to securing a full management role in the future.

yksi

F37A said:

yksi said:

Life is unfair and you're looking at this the wrong way. Ignore what the bosses mates get. Everyone knows this happens, whether it's someone's mate or the bosses' husband on the books as an advisor when he never even enters the building. Their pay is actually none of your business and you are not entitled to be paid based on what others in the company do, you're only entitled to the amount that was agreed with you when you started the job.

Are you paid the amount you agreed to? And are you paid a fair wage for what you actually do? If you're underpaid, look for another job. If you're paid correctly, suck it up and learn to ignore the management's stupid wasting of cash.

It's tough as I deserve a pay rise. Can't move as taking out mortgage and want job stability. 
I've been doing manager type work for a while. It's all corrupt. Qualifications - an objective way to compare candidates is out the window in this environment. It makes me think there no point of going uni or getting qualifications if people hire mates.

It is. But don't let them ruin your ambition. Firstly, ask for the payrise (read this guide: https://www.askamanager.org/2018/02/the-ask-a-manager-guide-to-asking-for-a-raise.html ). If he says no then put your sights on getting a better position. You will still be able to get a mortgage even if you switch jobs, that's what brokers are for, to find you the right mortgage deal. Don't stay in a job which makes you miserable just for saving a tenth of a percent!

In the end it's your boss who will be sorry when he has a basket full of overpaid plebs and he has let his good employers leave through his own stupidity.

Thrugelmir

Perhaps your resentment is evident to others in your organisation. No one is indispensable. 

Jillanddy

F37A said:

yksi said:

Life is unfair and you're looking at this the wrong way. Ignore what the bosses mates get. Everyone knows this happens, whether it's someone's mate or the bosses' husband on the books as an advisor when he never even enters the building. Their pay is actually none of your business and you are not entitled to be paid based on what others in the company do, you're only entitled to the amount that was agreed with you when you started the job.

Are you paid the amount you agreed to? And are you paid a fair wage for what you actually do? If you're underpaid, look for another job. If you're paid correctly, suck it up and learn to ignore the management's stupid wasting of cash.

It's tough as I deserve a pay rise.

And that's your mistake. Nobody deserves a pay rise. That's not how life works. There is no such thing as "fair pay". You either get a promotion or you take a hike. Your employer doesn't give a fig about you or your personal circumstances. It isn't reasonable to expect them to. It'd be nice if they did, maybe. But they don't and they aren't required to. If you can't or won't leave that is entirely your own choice. 

oh_really

F37A said:

Head of dept hires his mates into senior jobs ie cronyism. He hands them big pay packets. 

Befriend head of dept and ask for raise.