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Future Proofing my life: Deposit saving then MFW journey in under 13 years

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  • savingholmes
    savingholmes Posts: 28,958 Forumite
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    An impressive list as always.

    Great news on the free course.

    I get you wanting to understand DIY more - but now I'm paying a handyman the equivalent of £12.50 an hour - I regret all the angst of the past and wish I'd employed him / someone more like him over the last few years instead of using my expensive hours of bought annual leave to do jobs... and recover from doing jobs... Please don't misunderstand me - have at it if you enjoy it and I get you wanting to understand it enough to get the best deal - all I'm trying to say is if you can earn more per hour - sometimes it pays to pay someone to do the stuff you can get done cheaper by others...

    Good luck with the new collab and the tech issues and getting your previous invoices paid.

    Celery goes nice in soup. It also responds to water pretty well.
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £174.8K Equity 32.77%
    2) £3K Net savings after CCs 6/7/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £22.5K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.1K) = 28.2/£127.5K target 22;12% updated 6/7
    4) FI Age 60 income target £16.5/30K 55.1%
    5) SIPP £4.6K updated 6/7/25
  • LadyWithAPlan
    LadyWithAPlan Posts: 3,744 Forumite
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    edited 9 September 2022 at 12:35AM
    An impressive list as always.

    Great news on the free course.

    I get you wanting to understand DIY more - but now I'm paying a handyman the equivalent of £12.50 an hour - I regret all the angst of the past and wish I'd employed him / someone more like him over the last few years instead of using my expensive hours of bought annual leave to do jobs... and recover from doing jobs... Please don't misunderstand me - have at it if you enjoy it and I get you wanting to understand it enough to get the best deal - all I'm trying to say is if you can earn more per hour - sometimes it pays to pay someone to do the stuff you can get done cheaper by others...

    Good luck with the new collab and the tech issues and getting your previous invoices paid.

    Celery goes nice in soup. It also responds to water pretty well.
    Indeed at £12.50 an hour for an experienced handyman no wonder you are getting him to do as much as possible ;) I would too!!  You are right ! I would move him in !! Plus the good ones will do a better finish .. I have family members who are in the building trade and they always pull in specialists. However this is as much as knowledge and making little jobs done rather than paying and waiting.  
    The fact I cant even put up my own pictures or a shelf is now boring to me - as I always pay people to do it and it is not beyond me.. just fear of drills and lack of knowledge.
    I feel it is about stepping up into home owner version of me .. i cant wait to have a go at laying bricks (though in real life I may never need to)- or putting up a ceiling light.

     I live in London and  I dont think handymen get out of bed for £40/hour .... I was inspired actually by @Sistergold who has has so many dodgy/high  quotes/ and then lack of turnups when she is waiting for bits of work  to get done  cos she  has a nice car, nice house  in London and no man they can talk to ..re quotes .. she is super queen of DIY so I feel a bit of knowledge and being captainess of my own ship is a good thing here even if I then as I no doubt will hire people to do the difficult perfectionist work.

    I chased some invoices today - lets see what my bank says tomorrow,

    WON SOMETHING ELSE (BY ACCIDENT)
    I am on a roll - the free online course I have been doing all week  had a grand prize of their big autumn course they were selling for over £2k -  I guess as an enticement for people to turn up each day. And I won that! So I am using it to move my programme forward again.  I would not buy it but it si like free focus and motivation.

    I did not go to the gym again or deal with tech ...- work and procrastination and caught up with people - plus this 30 days to clean and organised home ..

    Re Day 2 of the book I have cleaned out my fridge and the under cupboard of my kitchen sink - I discovered some new w/up liquid which saves me buying more
    My apartment is definitely looking and feeling clearer in just two days - so I will keep going with the book. 

    Food
    I cooked my first ever toad in the hole - GF as well.- inspired by a diary on here.  It was fabulous - i googled a recipe and made sure i had the batter in the fridge for an hour as they said. I am definitely eating and cooking with more carbs eg potatoes and pastry but i am not craving sweets in the same way so maybe I needed to just eat more carbs ;)

    RIP the Queen, long live the Queen - she did an amazing job over very difficult times -  she has been in the background of my life and indeed my parents lives always. It really marks a passage of time and a link back to WW2 as well. I  made sure to speak to my mum tonight so she knows she is loved. 

    NSD 4/16 no spends Thursday and in fact I won an expensive course ;) Plus free DIY course - this MSE lark is working.
    DON'T BUY STUFF (from Frugalwoods)
    No seriously, just don’t buy things. 99% of our success with our savings rate is attributed to the fact that we don’t buy things... You can and should take advantage of discounts.... But at the end of the day, the only way to truly save money is to not buy stuff.    Money doesn’t walk out of your wallet on its own accord.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6289577/future-proofing-my-life-deposit-saving-then-mfw-journey-in-under-13-years#latest
  • savingholmes
    savingholmes Posts: 28,958 Forumite
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    Great news on the free course and your cooking success.

    I read SG's diary for a while too - and yes she had a nightmare. I can't stand the noise of drills - and am quite clumsy so daren't risk it for me. Have done gardening, wallpapering, painting and all sorts of other things over the years...
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £174.8K Equity 32.77%
    2) £3K Net savings after CCs 6/7/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £22.5K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.1K) = 28.2/£127.5K target 22;12% updated 6/7
    4) FI Age 60 income target £16.5/30K 55.1%
    5) SIPP £4.6K updated 6/7/25
  • savingholmes
    savingholmes Posts: 28,958 Forumite
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    The book sounds really interesting.

    Glad the flat is looking more like your ideal.

    Another thought to throw in while I am pro home 🏡 ownership some FI people deliberately invest in the market instead so they have more ongoing income and more liquid assets... There are risks to that too 
    Achieve FIRE/Mortgage Neutrality in 2030
    1) MFW Nov 21 £202K now £174.8K Equity 32.77%
    2) £3K Net savings after CCs 6/7/25
    3) Mortgage neutral by 06/30 (AVC £22.5K + Lump Sums DB £4.6K + (25% of SIPP 1.1K) = 28.2/£127.5K target 22;12% updated 6/7
    4) FI Age 60 income target £16.5/30K 55.1%
    5) SIPP £4.6K updated 6/7/25
  • Will be interesting to see how your DIY course goes! Sistergold makes it sound very useful, so will be interesting to hear a second opinion of a different place. I'm scared of power tools, and I guess I'm worried that a few hours with one won't change that (or will leave me short of a finger or two!)
    Start mortgage date: August 2022; Start mortgage amount: £240,999; Original mortgage free date: August 2056
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  • Will be interesting to see how your DIY course goes! Sistergold makes it sound very useful, so will be interesting to hear a second opinion of a different place. I'm scared of power tools, and I guess I'm worried that a few hours with one won't change that (or will leave me short of a finger or two!)
    I am also convinced/terrified I will lose a finger .or an eye or a leg (!) so I will definitely keep you updated. Its a 10 week course so..
    It's a women only course and I think that is why week 1 is zero power tools as I think its a normal worry.  We doing  plumbing 101 - cisterns and pipes (we have plumbing  session 2 on building pipes and u bends etc  later ;))  then week 2 is drill week but being able to put up shelves. pictures and a curtain rail would be amazing.
     My walls where I live are made of concrete and got burly male friends here who broke 17 drill bits in the walls so .... I feel a pair of safety glasses will be my first purchase.

    I am also a get it done girl and not a perfectionist so I am not sure how good my DIY will look but this is all about my first home and learning ...
    The book sounds really interesting.

    Glad the flat is looking more like your ideal.

    Another thought to throw in while I am pro home 🏡 ownership some FI people deliberately invest in the market instead so they have more ongoing income and more liquid assets... There are risks to that too 
    My flat is rental (all my own furniture and kitchen stuff so thats all good for when I buy) but is fabulous and v reasonable .. and the more I declutter and follow this 30 day book plan  the more it feels and looks great. I also have lots of friends in the building... and the area is suoer central
    Maybe this is part of why I am delaying buying  plus as a HR tax payer I add all over 50k to my SIPP cos of tax advantages (and I will be able to access if I need soon as over 50)

    I do know as part of my FIRE plan I need a paid for home  soon-ish - markets are v up and down  but I do currently have my deposit split into 
    -half my deposit as an investment in the one company and am getting already great returns paid semi annually,
    - 20% in premium bonds 
    -20% in s&s isa - that up  over 10% even with markets down
    - under 10% in H2B isa - 25% uplift if I buy up to 450k

    I was looking at house auctions yesterday  and whilst I would need to hire someone who knows about buying at auction the idea of just saving like crazy then buying cash in 5 years is quite appealing - all depends on income, spending and my rent ;) Think I have 3 more plus years here,
    Excellent work there 😊

    With DIY, I always tell myself "I am an intelligent and capable woman, other people can do this, so I must be able to figure it out too". There's a deal of skill involved in plastering of course, as in many of these things, but the basics are about getting the consistency right and knowing what order to do things - a course can teach you that, and then it's just practice, and accepting you won't be perfect, but will hopefully be good enough.

    I've recently plastered several walls in Mr Cheery's dad's house, and while I wouldn't be hiring myself out as a plasterer, and they're not as good as the walls in our kitchen - it was also free rather than several thousand pounds, and it's actually DONE rather than still waiting for someone... 

    Anything that you can do for yourself will help! 

    Liking the sound of this book... Keep reporting back and I may investigate it myself...
    Loving the DIY  self talk ;)
    Well done on the plastering - I am very impressed. I know my FM had a plasterer come in as  its hard to get it looking perfect  but perfect vs £1000s... and as you say no waiting or wasting time.
    Yes the basics are the start then we will see - I may be practising on my current home!! I am eyeing up the lino and might replace it with Karndean as BIL has a spare box and some glue ... 


    This 30 days to a clean and organised home by Katie Berry is magic  - it definitely has some weird witchy women super power on me - i cant believe the difference  after 3 days-  - i say this having tried Fly lady, Marie Kondo, feng shui , space clearing books over the years etc  - i even once had a feng shui consultant in and even that didnt move my clutter.. I think it is someone saying organise this small exact thing and  clean this other small  exact thing ... and tomorrow do x and y. No thinking about joy or hotspots ..
    She does not mention ebaying or selling stuff so I am stacking what I am finding to sell into a charity bag and also an ebay bag for after.
    Maybe it just suits my brain.. I did think it was an issue as yesterday was 'do a junk drawer' and then I thought I have 5! .. but actually reading ahead she gets to everything  eventually-from office to closets so you can just do one or two junk drawers in kitchen/lounge. Plus she says to stay on a day til its done - no stress or competition.
     Today was cleaning and organising pantry - and cleaning task is tidy your plastic tupperware and storage stuff! I have discovered a couple food stuffs
    It is free to download here  
    If people try it let me know how it goes

    DON'T BUY STUFF (from Frugalwoods)
    No seriously, just don’t buy things. 99% of our success with our savings rate is attributed to the fact that we don’t buy things... You can and should take advantage of discounts.... But at the end of the day, the only way to truly save money is to not buy stuff.    Money doesn’t walk out of your wallet on its own accord.
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6289577/future-proofing-my-life-deposit-saving-then-mfw-journey-in-under-13-years#latest
  • badmemory
    badmemory Posts: 9,580 Forumite
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    Did you know that you can build shelves without a screw or a drill.  All you need is an alcove & a place like BnQ that will cut planks to size?  Mine are still standing, some after over 30 years & no-one seems to realise they are not conventional shelving.  I too do not like power tools.
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