Withdrawing from a conditional job offer - NHS

TELLIT01

Simply hold off from returning the contract document for the current job offer until you know the outcome of the job interview on Friday.  If successful, simply apologise and say you have just received another job offer and you are taking that job.

oh_really

1122abc said:

I realise that the working conditions are breaking me down too much and I would like to leave.

This is your problem above others. You need to work on this or you may find adversity follows from job to job.

1122abc

oh_really said:

1122abc said:

I realise that the working conditions are breaking me down too much and I would like to leave.

This is your problem above others. You need to work on this or you may find adversity follows from job to job.

I understand but there is a particular aspect of this job that many people have complained about. It's under some kind of investigation but unlikely to be 'fixed' in the near future. I have managed well with all of my other jobs which have been more stressful than this job but I completely agree with you.

TELLIT01 said:

Simply hold off from returning the contract document for the current job offer until you know the outcome of the job interview on Friday.  If successful, simply apologise and say you have just received another job offer and you are taking that job.

Thank you. After some thought, this is my plan. If I am legally bound and cannot leave, the worst case scenario it that I work my notice period and re-apply to the other job again.

Undervalued

1122abc said:

oh_really said:

Yes, you have the choice to accept or reject their offer.

But as I have mentioned above, I have already verbally confirmed 'yes' to the job offer and then written 'I am happy to proceed' in an e-mail. Is this agreement (verbal and written, but not in a contract) legally binding?

Theoretically you are obliged to give then three months notice. Technically if you issue the notice today it starts tomorrow and runs for three months until 26 October.

A verbal agreement (or one in an informal letter) is just as valid as anything in a more formal document with the word contract on it.

However, as has been said above, the chances of them actually wanting you to work that notice are next to zero!

1122abc

Undervalued said:

1122abc said:

oh_really said:

Yes, you have the choice to accept or reject their offer.

But as I have mentioned above, I have already verbally confirmed 'yes' to the job offer and then written 'I am happy to proceed' in an e-mail. Is this agreement (verbal and written, but not in a contract) legally binding?

Theoretically you are obliged to give then three months notice. Technically if you issue the notice today it starts tomorrow and runs for three months until 26 October.

A verbal agreement (or one in an informal letter) is just as valid as anything in a more formal document with the word contract on it.

However, as has been said above, the chances of them actually wanting you to work that notice are next to zero!

Wow, I did not know that. I thought I would only need to give notice after starting the job. What's the point in sending an offer letter and requesting it to be signed and returned?

Also, what if the conditions are not met - then surely, the agreement is void and no notice would need to be given?

Manxman_in_exile

Can a conditional offer ever be accepted by an offeree prior to becoming unconditional?  I don't understand how a prospective employee can be bound to a conditional offer from a prospective employer.

Until it becomes unconditional, an offer can't be accepted, can it?

I agree that the prospective emploer might not like it though.

getmore4less

What are the conditions on the offer
(you could have put your own conditions on acceptance like they fix the ongoing problems, and one months notice if you really wanted to leave anyway.)

what are the notice periods for employee and employer during and after probation

Does the employer notice change if those conditions are not met after you had started.


The current 1y FTC  is that the first or a continuation of a previous one.

Undervalued

Manxman_in_exile said:

Can a conditional offer ever be accepted by an offeree prior to becoming unconditional?  I don't understand how a prospective employee can be bound to a conditional offer from a prospective employer.

Until it becomes unconditional, an offer can't be accepted, can it?

I agree that the prospective emploer might not like it though.

Yes.

They are offering the job subject to the prospective employee meeting certain conditions. If the conditions are met then a contract has been formed.

It works both ways. If the employer later wanted to back out they would have to give the employee any contractual notice that had been agreed or make payment in lieu.