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What sort of heating?

I'm buying a 1980s 2 bed mid-terrace house with a tiny garden.  It only has a gas fire in the lounge and an immersion-heated water tank.  There is no central heating.  What is the most cost-effective way of heating the house and water?  Gas, electric storage, ground heat pump?  TIA
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  • shinytop
    shinytop Posts: 2,160 Forumite
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    If you want heaters in every room, gas central heating and hot water is, currently, by far the cheapest to run. Storage heaters will be cheaper to install but dearer to run and are a bit rubbish to live with.  In your situation I wouldn't consider a heat pump at this time. In a word, gas. 
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  • tacpot12
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    A mains gas combi boiler will be the  cheapest to run.
    The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.
  • QrizB
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    I agree with most of the others, as you're already on the gas network and have a live connection it's likely that gas CH and HW will work out the cheapest. Assuming you're staying in the house for 10 years it's a safe choice.
    As a recently-built 2-bed terrace it's also likely your heating demand will be relatively low (you should have reasonable insulation and only two external walls, rather than four). If you don't plan to stay there in the long term you could stick with what you've got and see how you get on - after all it's been "good enough" for the previous owners?
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  • EVandPV
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    edited 17 June 2021 at 8:35PM
    Space heating is catered for by two Air to Air heat source pumps which are brilliant. They respond so quickly when either heating or cooling is required in a way that wet systems, by whatever the means of fuel source simply cannot replicate.
    Being Air to Air, modern heat pumps offer COP(coefficient of performance) figures with a ratio of 4:1, that is for every 1 kWh of energy consumed then 4kWh's of heat is given out!
    Hi Coastal

    Just wondering how many rooms your able to heat with the 2 heat pumps ?
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  • Coastalwatch
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    Hi EV, Lounge and hall from one then lobby, bathroom bedrooms1 and 2 from the second.
    Lounge, bathroom and lobby at a comfortable 22/23 C. Beds, hall and kitchen around 16 C. Doors between each opened or closed as required to adjust heating/cooling accordingly. The kitchen temperature is maintained from the heat which leaks into it from the hall and then topped up when cooking via the oven, hob or both.
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  • EVandPV
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    Hi EV, Lounge and hall from one then lobby, bathroom bedrooms1 and 2 from the second.
    Lounge, bathroom and lobby at a comfortable 22/23 C. Beds, hall and kitchen around 16 C. Doors between each opened or closed as required to adjust heating/cooling accordingly. The kitchen temperature is maintained from the heat which leaks into it from the hall and then topped up when cooking via the oven, hob or both.
    Woh, that's impressive for a pair of 2kw units ! 
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  • Coastalwatch
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    Yes, I can scarcely believe it myself but it's been this way for two winters now with the last being colder than the previous two or three but we kept quite warm enough. Considering they effectively replaced a 28 kW gas boiler, admittedly for space heating only, just shows what can be achieved with a little application and an awful lot of help and advice from Mart, Zeup and ASB.

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  • Martyn1981
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    edited 18 June 2021 at 9:38AM
    EVandPV said:
    Hi EV, Lounge and hall from one then lobby, bathroom bedrooms1 and 2 from the second.
    Lounge, bathroom and lobby at a comfortable 22/23 C. Beds, hall and kitchen around 16 C. Doors between each opened or closed as required to adjust heating/cooling accordingly. The kitchen temperature is maintained from the heat which leaks into it from the hall and then topped up when cooking via the oven, hob or both.
    Woh, that's impressive for a pair of 2kw units ! 
    Can I just say I've always found CW's example very impressive and inspiring, and I think it fits very well in this example for a two bed terrace, if the OP is willing to have a play.

    We've not been able to achieve as much as CW, with a 3/4 bed 1930's semi, however, the addition of two 3.5kW A/C units has reduced our annual gas consumption (heating, DHW and oven) from about 8MWh pa to about 5MWh [Edit - Should have said that leccy consumption has gone up about 1MWh as a result.] These top up winter heating, either from excess solar, or E7 overnight, but can supply almost all our heating from Mch through to early Nov, and almost entirely from PV Apr to Oct.
    Not a perfect solution, a bit messy, but it works well, and there is an element of fun/satisfaction from reducing FF consumption (assuming leccy is on a green tariff).
    Also have to give a shout out to the early adopters Z and ASB for all their advice and 'virtual' hand holding.

    Also a bonus to have the ability to cool, now that we seem to be getting a week or so of sustained high temps most years.
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