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Northern Rock Loan - Where to Start?
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Knittygritty804
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Hi, I'm very new here, this is only my second post as I brave lifting my head *out* of the sand, so to speak, and I know that there is a *huge* amount of info re Northern Rock mortgages/loans, which is why I'm posting really as I'm already feeling a little overwhelmed. I would appreciate any help or advice so much.
We took out our 100% mortgage in 2006, along with a loan of £2,000 (which we didn't actually want but were encouraged to take by our mortgage advisor at the time). We are currently paying the loan portion off through a DMP, and haven't really thought beyond that if I'm honest.
But it's always bugged me that by the time we began paying through the DMP, what started as a £2,000 loan had accrued £6,200 interest, so that the balance was then £8,200. Up until this point we had made all payments in full and on time, so surely the balance should have decreased, or at least stayed at £2,000 if we were only paying interest (our mortgage is interest only). So I'm struggling to understand how it accrued so much interest.
I have written to them to enquire, and their response was that because we are making reduced payments through the DMP, the balance will reduce at a slower rate, but that wasn't what I was asking really, I want to know how the balance crept up so much in the first place. Just to be clear, no interest has been applied during the time we have been making reduced payments, the interest has accrued during the time we were making payments in full and on time. I have only kept statements from the last few years and have requested copies dating to the time before we went on the DMP.
I do accept full responsibility at sticking my head in the sand about it all, the whole thing has affected my mental health and ability to deal with life in general. I have searched the forum and read round it a bit but haven't come across any incidences where the original loan amount has increased.
I really appreciate your time for reading and any advice on what I might be able to do to understand the situation a bit more clearly. Many thanks
We took out our 100% mortgage in 2006, along with a loan of £2,000 (which we didn't actually want but were encouraged to take by our mortgage advisor at the time). We are currently paying the loan portion off through a DMP, and haven't really thought beyond that if I'm honest.
But it's always bugged me that by the time we began paying through the DMP, what started as a £2,000 loan had accrued £6,200 interest, so that the balance was then £8,200. Up until this point we had made all payments in full and on time, so surely the balance should have decreased, or at least stayed at £2,000 if we were only paying interest (our mortgage is interest only). So I'm struggling to understand how it accrued so much interest.
I have written to them to enquire, and their response was that because we are making reduced payments through the DMP, the balance will reduce at a slower rate, but that wasn't what I was asking really, I want to know how the balance crept up so much in the first place. Just to be clear, no interest has been applied during the time we have been making reduced payments, the interest has accrued during the time we were making payments in full and on time. I have only kept statements from the last few years and have requested copies dating to the time before we went on the DMP.
I do accept full responsibility at sticking my head in the sand about it all, the whole thing has affected my mental health and ability to deal with life in general. I have searched the forum and read round it a bit but haven't come across any incidences where the original loan amount has increased.
I really appreciate your time for reading and any advice on what I might be able to do to understand the situation a bit more clearly. Many thanks
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Do you still live in the original property on which you took out the mortgage (and do you still have the mortgage outstanding)?0
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Yes, we do still have the property and the mortgage outstanding. Thank you.0
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My guess is that the loan was secured on the property and so not regulated by the consumer credit act. So when you defaulted on the loan, the full amount repayable (all the remaining payments from default to end of term of the loan) fell due.
Second Charge Loans only became regulated in March 2016.0 -
Thank you so much for taking the time to respond. If that is the case, do you think there would be room to negotiate with them, we have so far paid off just over £3,000 of the loan, and are there guides on this anywhere? Sorry to ask so much, I'm just really trying to get my head around where we stand.0
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You can offer a full and final but if you are paying back and they have the loan secured on the house (you'd have to check that) then why would they accept anything less? They can get their full debt either from you or by forcing the sale of the house.0
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The loan is unsecured. Thank you for taking the time to respond. I really do appreciate it.0
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Knittygritty804 said:The loan is unsecured. Thank you for taking the time to respond. I really do appreciate it.
Your first step should be a CCA request to the lender, if you don`t know what that is, then Debt Camel explains here -
Debts - why, how & when to ask for the CCA agreement · Debt Camel
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Thank you, that's really helpful. I really appreciate your time and help ☺️0
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I suspect the loan is secured along with the mortgage, I doubt they will be blatantly breaching CCA regulations around interest charges for early settlement/default.
In addition if it wasn't secured, I would have expected the loan to be sold on to a Debt Collection Agent whilst in a DMP based on the amount outstanding, with reduced payments for such a long period.
If it is secured, it is unlikely you will have much leverage to negotiate down the amount but it is definitely worth a try.1 -
I would also be questioning why the loan was forced on them in the first place. Surely this is little different to PPI and other unscrupulous sales tactics. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the advisor was getting a bonus based on the bits s/he could tag on to a mortgage.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on Debt Free Wannabe, Old Style Money Saving and Pensions boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
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