Fully automatic Coffee machine? But cheaper

waqasahmed

John Lewis have this 
https://www.johnlewis.com/sage-oracle-touch-fully-automatic-bean-to-cup-coffee-machine/brushed-stainless-steel/p3336790?sku=237062475&s_ppc=2dx92700064039595321&tmad=c&tmcampid=2&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5PGFBhC2ARIsAIFIMNeV9DDt97Q1gnh_BaGPY0ArmYwo1aUFdQoC2TI58wODIgn_iIykr88aAkfDEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

But it's rather expensive. I was hoping there are products that do the same thing without the Sage price tag? 

coffeehound

JL have mis-described that -- it is a semi-automatic espresso machine -- not a bean-to-cup.

Do you want a semi-automatic espresso machine + grinder, or do you want a fully-automatic bean-to-cup machine?

waqasahmed

coffeehound said:

JL have mis-described that -- it is a semi-automatic espresso machine -- not a bean-to-cup.

Do you want a semi-automatic espresso machine + grinder, or do you want a fully-automatic bean-to-cup machine?

I'm not actually sure tbh. I want something that makes me barista quality coffee without having to have any barista style training. Essentially I want a quick coffee, but I don't like the cheap-y Tassimos and the like

coffeehound

waqasahmed said:
I'm not actually sure tbh. I want something that makes me barista quality coffee without having to have any barista style training. Essentially I want a quick coffee, but I don't like the cheap-y Tassimos and the like

A bean-to-cup machine will be best then.  

Hopefully someone can now give you some buying advice for one of those ..

GDB2222

Aeropress is cheaper, and needs no training. Obviously, it’s not automatic. Buy a decent grinder.

waqasahmed

GDB2222 said:

Aeropress is cheaper, and needs no training. Obviously, it’s not automatic. Buy a decent grinder.

I did have a look into that, and it's definitely value for money, but I'd prefer to automate away household tasks as much as possible. 

Happibunni

I bought the Jura Ena 8 from JL last year. Good machine, straightforward to use, does beans or ground. Rinses itself before and after use. Still more expensive than some machines but wanted one that was easy to use with no Barista experience required. Jura website sometimes has them reduced for simple reasons e.g. no box, might be worth a look. 

JJ_Egan

Barista quality i can never get my head around that .

I use a simple Delonghi machine  and no longer grind my own ,nor buy overpriced designer coffee .

waqasahmed

Happibunni said:

I bought the Jura Ena 8 from JL last year. Good machine, straightforward to use, does beans or ground. Rinses itself before and after use. Still more expensive than some machines but wanted one that was easy to use with no Barista experience required. Jura website sometimes has them reduced for simple reasons e.g. no box, might be worth a look. 

Thanks. I take it you essentially get barrista quality coffee and it's fully automatic? 

GeordieGeorge

The best I’ve found, after trying many types, is a stovetop “moka” coffee pot, with Lavazza or Illy espresso grind coffee, kept in the fridge.
I’d suggest trying this, it’s about £20 for the pot, and you might like it as much as I do.

maisie_cat

Since 2000 I have had the following:
Gaggia classic with separate grinder, fine for one person but too slow for two people
Kitchenaid artisan 2 boiler that broke after 10 months, we had to wait for JL to fix/replace so we bought a 
second hand plumbed in commercial monster that was a metre wide, lovely machine but too big
then a La Pavoni Europiccola that I'd wanted for decades and was a huge dissapointment
then another plumbed in Fracino Bambino that we left in the last house in 2019
replaced that with a Sage The Oracle that cost £995 and it makes lovely coffee, I can't believe it's now £1500
Much prefer the dose/grind/tamp in one operation than previous machines, the automatic milk frothing is lovely, although I'm aware that the fancier the technology, the more things to go wrong.
Apart from the Fracino we've managed to get our money back when we sold the machines.