S Series to Series X -Essential or Silly.

Dandytf

Very much enjoying x box S Series, game pass etc.
Though I had choice of Launch day consoles, I thought Id'e ignore 4K decision until HDR t.v. is bought,(current 4K Non HDR)
I'll upgrade to HDR during '22 maybe small Oled drops in cost.
Is going from S Series to X Series Essential or Silly.
t.i.a.

MattMattMattUK

It is neither essential nor silly, it just depends on your personal preference for resolution, frame rate and raytracing.

Dandytf

MattMattMattUK said:

It is neither essential nor silly, it just depends on your personal preference for resolution, frame rate and raytracing.

Seems minor ray tracing hasn't managed to reach S Series, with limited ram.
Is ray tracing noticeable yet via series X.
30/60 fps, not sure I notice the difference t.b.h. 
Resolution has been upscaled Sony or Q on existing 20015 Sony 4k t.v.
Flat is limited to <50" t.v. before it would seem too big.
Sony/LG have 48" Oled's though think this is next year's HDR route if they ever drop to <1K.
Plenty of time for Series X decision, though missed purchase via microsoft last week before No Stock.
thanks

ThisnotThat

Dandytf said:

MattMattMattUK said:

It is neither essential nor silly, it just depends on your personal preference for resolution, frame rate and raytracing.

Seems minor ray tracing hasn't managed to reach S Series, with limited ram.
Is ray tracing noticeable yet via series X.
30/60 fps, not sure I notice the difference t.b.h. 
Resolution has been upscaled Sony or Q on existing 20015 Sony 4k t.v.
Flat is limited to <50" t.v. before it would seem too big.
Sony/LG have 48" Oled's though think this is next year's HDR route if they ever drop to <1K.
Plenty of time for Series X decision, though missed purchase via microsoft last week before No Stock.
thanks

You can already get a <£1000 LG OLED. But please don't go and make another credit purchase just because you can.

Dandytf

@ThisnotThat
Maybe best not mention <1k oled's though Id'e read a review eventually.
Thanks

MattMattMattUK

Dandytf said:

MattMattMattUK said:

It is neither essential nor silly, it just depends on your personal preference for resolution, frame rate and raytracing.

Seems minor ray tracing hasn't managed to reach S Series, with limited ram.

It is not a RAM issue with the Series S, it is the lack of capability in the GPU for Ray Tracing, the Enhanced Edition of Metro Exodus will be a better test though as it has been built for proper Ray Tracing, rather than just bodged on that other games have used, it will be interesting to see how the Series S stands up.

Dandytf said:

Is ray tracing noticeable yet via series X.

Yes, with some games, not with others, it really depends on the game and implementation. 

Dandytf said:

30/60 fps, not sure I notice the difference t.b.h. 

Again it depends, a rock solid 60fps vs a rock solid 30fps is noticeable and is an improvement, however a rock solid 30fps is generally better than a wobbly 55-60fps, frame pacing issues are more noticeable than a lower frame rate for most people. 

Dandytf said:

Resolution has been upscaled Sony or Q on existing 20015 Sony 4k t.v.

Native is far better than upscaled, although again it depends on the upscaling method. DLSS (on nVidia cards) is amazing, the solution on the consoles and AMD cards is yet to be seen and is immature. Upscaling tends to introduce an element of blur or fussiness compared to native, but some implementations are better than others. 

Dandytf said:

Flat is limited to <50" t.v. before it would seem too big.
Sony/LG have 48" Oled's though think this is next year's HDR route if they ever drop to <1K.

With the current consoles now is not the time to change TV, until HDMI 2.1 and VRR is properly implemented from the TV makers then it will not be worth doing, probably late 2022 really, by which point the consoles will be making better use of the new architectures and options. 

Dandytf said:

Plenty of time for Series X decision, though missed purchase via microsoft last week before No Stock.

I agree on waiting for the moment. I have no need to buy a Series console as I got myself a PS5 and for anything MS I will play on my PC as the RTX 3090 will beat the Series consoles by a mile, however they are good bits of kit and GamePass is incredible value for money. 

Dandytf

@MattMattMattUK excellent reply,appreciated. thanks

Dandytf

ThisnotThat said:

Dandytf said:

MattMattMattUK said:

It is neither essential nor silly, it just depends on your personal preference for resolution, frame rate and raytracing.

Seems minor ray tracing hasn't managed to reach S Series, with limited ram.
Is ray tracing noticeable yet via series X.
30/60 fps, not sure I notice the difference t.b.h. 
Resolution has been upscaled Sony or Q on existing 20015 Sony 4k t.v.
Flat is limited to <50" t.v. before it would seem too big.
Sony/LG have 48" Oled's though think this is next year's HDR route if they ever drop to <1K.
Plenty of time for Series X decision, though missed purchase via microsoft last week before No Stock.
thanks

You can already get a <£1000 LG OLED. But please don't go and make another credit purchase just because you can.

nice suggestion, though not since currys rejected my attempted finance account yesterday
only applied for any future purchases to be made, though no immediate large purchases.
thanks anyway, home improvements for time being, unless x series re surfaces.
Maybe an egpu solution could be an option to use with xps 13" got ms flight sim running 30fps.