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New fixed rate but not much saving

My current 5yr fixed rate mortgage will finish in 4months, so I looked around to see what deals were out there. To my surprise, my current provider, Halifax, seems to be the best available, and as it's the same company, there's no fees. But I was surprised I didn't save more during the change - going from 2.14% down to 1.30% for 5yrs, took my payments from £1702pm down to £1583pm, a reduction of £119pm. Does that sound right? Outstanding amount is £310k over 18yrs 4mo.
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  • richd70
    richd70 Posts: 40 Forumite
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    I guess it's £310k / 220months which is £1409. And then I thought it would be £310k X 1.3% which would be £4,030, which, if you divide it by 5yrs you get £67pm, don't you? Shouldn't repayments be £1409+£67?
  • South_coast
    South_coast Posts: 5,935 Forumite
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    edited 11 March 2021 at 12:47AM
    The interest isn't a one-off charge on the total balance, it's paid every month and is a percentage of the balance at that point in time, divided by days in the year, multiplied by days in the month. It's a fixed rate, not a fixed interest payment. At 1.3% it will be more like £340 per month, but that figure will only be correct for the one month your balance is exactly £310,000. Each month the ratio between interest and capital will shift slightly as your balance will be slightly less but your payment remains the same
    Mortgage start: £65,495 (March 2016)
    Cleared 🧚‍♀️🧚‍♀️🧚‍♀️!!! In 5 years, 1 month and 29 days
    Total amount repaid: £72,307.03. £1.10 repaid for every £1.00 borrowed

    Finally earning interest instead of paying it!!!
  • jimjames
    jimjames Posts: 18,764 Forumite
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    edited 11 March 2021 at 10:40AM
    At those interest rates the interest portion of the repayment will be relatively small so the rate change will make less of a difference as you have found.

    I'm also waiting to switch at the end of my fix and finding similar to you that the rate is making little difference to repayments. My mortgage has under 5 years to go so interest is even less significant in each monthly payment
    Remember the saying: if it looks too good to be true it almost certainly is.
  • unkle
    unkle Posts: 338 Forumite
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    Payments look right according to my spreadsheet. 
  • Yes it's showing the same here too.

    Get some extra money thrown in and watch yourself saving the £££'s!
    Became mortgage free 1st March 2023
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    edited 11 March 2021 at 5:17PM
    That just the way amortization works to keep the payment the same as the monthly interest goes down 
    starts at £310,000*0.013/12=  £334
    Goes down to ~ZERO for the last payment.

    I guess it's £310k / 220months which is £1409. And then I thought it would be £310k X 1.3% which would be £4,030, which, if you divide it by 5yrs you get £67pm, don't you? Shouldn't repayments be £1409+£67?

    That's 1.3% a year not more like £20k interest not £4k

    BUt because you are paying a bit off each months it will be less 

    here are your 5y numbers.(1.29%)

    amount rate payment owing interest
    £310,000.00 1.29% £1,583.03 £232,584.91 £17,566.79

    edit : Forgot to put in your savings.
    amount rate payment owing interest
    £310,000.00 2.14% £1,704.78 £237,118.71 £29,405.28

    £12k in interest and £4,500 less debt  not to shabby 

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