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Inheritance Tax (IHT), Potentially Exempt Transfer (PET) and the 7-Year Rule

HenryThornton
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I live in my own freehold home. I want to minimize the inheritance tax when the house is left to my 2 sons on my death. The value of the property today is above my personal allowance. An inheritance tax potentially exempt transfer (PET) requires I pay a market rent to the beneficiaries for the 7 years (assuming I live past then). However, my retirement income and savings are not sufficient to pay a market rent (and bills). Could someone with knowledge or experience please explain how a PET works in practice. Thank-you.
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Have you accounted for all transferable and residential nil rate bands?
You will have somewhere between £325k and £1m
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HenryThornton said:I live in my own freehold home. I want to minimize the inheritance tax when the house is left to my 2 sons on my death. The value of the property today is above my personal allowance. An inheritance tax potentially exempt transfer (PET) requires I pay a market rent to the beneficiaries for the 7 years (assuming I live past then). However, my retirement income and savings are not sufficient to pay a market rent (and bills). Could someone with knowledge or experience please explain how a PET works in practice. Thank-you.
I am not an expert and I don't know if this is a solution, but I will put it forward for discussion: How about gifting half the house to your sons as tenants in common? You then only own half a house. Many people in part ownership pay a small rent for the proportion they don't own. If one of your sons was to move in with you, it could be argued that you only occupy the part you own, and pay no rent at all.
There are CG and stamp duty implications to consider for your sons, if they are not already home owners. No CG on the gift if this is your main residence, and no stamp duty if you have no mortgage.
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If you transfer the house you live in to your sons, and continue to live there, the house remains in your estate for inheritance tax, unless you pay a market rent, which you cannot afford, and creates an income tax liability on your sons. A bad idea.
Giving half the house to your sons and arguing that you only need to pay a small rent is most likely going to end up with the same bad result (maybe a little less so).
You become beholden to your children with such plans. What if you need to sell the house to provide for yourself in the future? Relying on the council is a bad idea anyway, but with this sort of "planning", the council would not pay for your care, as they would treat such planning as a "deprivation of assets". What if your children are made bankrupt, or die and their shares in the house pass to someone else?
Before undertaking any sort of planning, check what the inheritance tax liability is likely to be on your death. If you have made no non-exempt gifts in the past seven years, you will have a nil rate band of £325,000 and a residential nil rate band of £175,000. If you are a widower and your wife left everything she had to you, it may be that those figures are doubled.1 -
AKW said:HenryThornton said:I live in my own freehold home. I want to minimize the inheritance tax when the house is left to my 2 sons on my death. The value of the property today is above my personal allowance. An inheritance tax potentially exempt transfer (PET) requires I pay a market rent to the beneficiaries for the 7 years (assuming I live past then). However, my retirement income and savings are not sufficient to pay a market rent (and bills). Could someone with knowledge or experience please explain how a PET works in practice. Thank-you.
I am not an expert and I don't know if this is a solution, but I will put it forward for discussion: How about gifting half the house to your sons as tenants in common? You then only own half a house. Many people in part ownership pay a small rent for the proportion they don't own. If one of your sons was to move in with you, it could be argued that you only occupy the part you own, and pay no rent at all.
There are CG and stamp duty implications to consider for your sons, if they are not already home owners. No CG on the gift if this is your main residence, and no stamp duty if you have no mortgage.
Giving your home away or even part of it is almost always a terrible idea. No one should put their long term security at risk, and if the people you give your home too run into financial trouble, get divorced or die that is exactly what you are doing.0 -
Jeremy535897 said:If you transfer the house you live in to your sons, and continue to live there, the house remains in your estate for inheritance tax, unless you pay a market rent, which you cannot afford, and creates an income tax liability on your sons. A bad idea.0
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HenryThornton said:Jeremy535897 said:If you transfer the house you live in to your sons, and continue to live there, the house remains in your estate for inheritance tax, unless you pay a market rent, which you cannot afford, and creates an income tax liability on your sons. A bad idea.0
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HenryThornton said:Jeremy535897 said:If you transfer the house you live in to your sons, and continue to live there, the house remains in your estate for inheritance tax, unless you pay a market rent, which you cannot afford, and creates an income tax liability on your sons. A bad idea.With liquid assets things are far simpler.0
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Of course everything could become an 'all change' situation depending on what the Govt doesnow to refill its coffers after Covid. Apparently inheritance tax is likely to be in the firing line for massive rejigging to lessen the gap between the haves and have nots from the next generation going forward (whilst filling the coffers of course) . The proposals from this outfit make very interesting reading . Particularly interesting is the idea of the 'Lifetime receipts tax ' suggestion which would prevent the 7yr give away working etc . It depends of course not on advisory groups, but what the Govt themselves decide to do, and most importantly if its backward or forward dated .
https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/app/uploads/2018/05/IC-inheritance-tax.pdf
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Jeremy535897 said:If the 7-year rule for brick & mortar property is not a good idea in practice then why do the HMRC mention it explicitly ie. it must benefit a large group of people or is it a subtle warning "there be dragons"?
This is directly from the HMRC page on passing-on-home under IHT followed by a little clarification in a web-chat:"""
Giving away a home before you dieThere’s normally no Inheritance Tax to pay if you move out and live for another 7 years.
If you want to continue living in your property after giving it away, you’ll need to:
* pay rent to the new owner at the going rate (for similar local rental properties)
* pay your share of the bills
* live there for at least 7 years
You do not have to pay rent to the new owners if both the following apply:
* you only give away part of your property
* the new owners also live at the property
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""" If a property is gifted away and the donor continues to live in the property then it is regarded as a gift with reservation and therefore added to the estate. However if market rent is paid from the day it is gifted until death or when they move out of the house then it will be regarded as a gift(PET). The 7 year clock starts from the date the rent started to be paid. """0 -
HenryThornton said:Jeremy535897 said:If the 7-year rule for brick & mortar property is not a good idea in practice then why do the HMRC mention it explicitly ie. it must benefit a large group of people or is it a subtle warning "there be dragons"?
This is directly from the HMRC page on passing-on-home under IHT followed by a little clarification in a web-chat:"""
Giving away a home before you dieThere’s normally no Inheritance Tax to pay if you move out and live for another 7 years.
If you want to continue living in your property after giving it away, you’ll need to:
* pay rent to the new owner at the going rate (for similar local rental properties)
* pay your share of the bills
* live there for at least 7 years
You do not have to pay rent to the new owners if both the following apply:
* you only give away part of your property
* the new owners also live at the property
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""" If a property is gifted away and the donor continues to live in the property then it is regarded as a gift with reservation and therefore added to the estate. However if market rent is paid from the day it is gifted until death or when they move out of the house then it will be regarded as a gift(PET). The 7 year clock starts from the date the rent started to be paid. """- the property is still in your estate for inheritance tax purposes, so no inheritance tax is saved
- the donees have paid tax on the rent received, unnecessarily as no inheritance tax saving is achieved
- instead of a tax free uplift in base cost for capital gains tax purposes, the donees' base cost is the value at the date of the gift, so they will probably pay more capital gains tax on a sale
But the real problem is that you can't see into the future. For example:- what if you can't afford to keep paying the rent?
- what if a donee marries someone you don't like, and then predeceases you?
- what if a donee goes bankrupt and has to sell the property?
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