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ushjr said:

JamoLew said:

Make the most of it while you can

You are bored and arent good at your job yet earn enough to pay 40% tax -- be thankfull that there are companies around willing to pay stupid amounts of money for that

The big worry has been how long will it last. 

AskAsk said:

ushjr said:

General_Grant said:

ushjr said:

I'm a month into a new job after 6 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I can't say I enjoy my new job but I never expected to.

One thing redundancy taught me was never be loyal to a company and just go for the money. It was a big mistake staying at my last company so long and I don't intend on staying at any company for too long again.

I've just been contacted by a company about a job they have going. The pay is £1,750 a year more than I'm on now which ordinarily won't be enough for me to consider moving. Commuting costs will be the same and similar commuting time. The job itself will probably be just as boring. I'm a 40% tax payer.

I'm thinking no its not worth it, but then I'm wondering if I'm just making the same mistakes as before. I'm also still on probation so no guarantee I'll pass that. One difference is that I'm in a small company and this is a large company and my fear of a small company is that they'll realise I'm not very good at my job so I won't pass my probation.

You ask whether you should consider the new job.  Yes, consider it further.  
Even if it is boring you would be paid more for enduring the boredom.

If you are not very good at your job perhaps it's better to find a job where you would feel you were making a good fist of it and be less concerned at being found out.

No idea what I'm good at. I'm useless at anything practical and I'm really not as clever as people think I am.

i am very good at what i do but like yourself, i do give people over confidence in my abilities.  people tend to think i am cleverer than i really am, and they place too much confidence in me.  a lot of this is my own fault as i do give people the impression that i know it all intentionally, but a lot of the time, people then get carried away and stretch this too far.

it can put pressure on me as then i feel i have to live up to expectations and i can get into very awkward situations when i fail miserably.

i personally do not think it is a good idea however to go from job to job quickly as this will look bad on your CV.  i would stick with the current job unless you really hate it.  a small company may be more tolerant of your failings as well to that of a big company, who has many staff and so you are less valued.

from my experience, i find smaller companies are much better to work for than the bigger ones, but they tend to pay less than the bigger companies.

I can be knowledgeable about things I like, for example I could probably tell you who drove for which team in every formula one season since I started following it. My brains like a sieve when it comes to remembering anything useful though.

couriervanman said:

ushjr said:

couriervanman said:

Find a job that you enjoy and the salary is not so important

That won't pay the bills.

General_Grant said:

ushjr said:

I'm a month into a new job after 6 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I can't say I enjoy my new job but I never expected to.

One thing redundancy taught me was never be loyal to a company and just go for the money. It was a big mistake staying at my last company so long and I don't intend on staying at any company for too long again.

I've just been contacted by a company about a job they have going. The pay is £1,750 a year more than I'm on now which ordinarily won't be enough for me to consider moving. Commuting costs will be the same and similar commuting time. The job itself will probably be just as boring. I'm a 40% tax payer.

I'm thinking no its not worth it, but then I'm wondering if I'm just making the same mistakes as before. I'm also still on probation so no guarantee I'll pass that. One difference is that I'm in a small company and this is a large company and my fear of a small company is that they'll realise I'm not very good at my job so I won't pass my probation.

You ask whether you should consider the new job.  Yes, consider it further.  
Even if it is boring you would be paid more for enduring the boredom.

If you are not very good at your job perhaps it's better to find a job where you would feel you were making a good fist of it and be less concerned at being found out.

No idea what I'm good at. I'm useless at anything practical and I'm really not as clever as people think I am.

Better to be happy in a job that pays slightly less than stressed out/fed up/hating your job and the people you work with

I find people can be too eager to cut meetings short etc and get back to their work whereas I like to spend as much time away from my desk as possible. 

TELLIT01 said:

£1750 will only give you about £1000 per year extra after tax so a move purely for the money is barely worth it as you are already earning good money.  If I was in your position I would be looking at which gave the greater job satisfaction.

That's what I was thinking.

Marcon said:

ushjr said:

I'm a month into a new job after 6 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I can't say I enjoy my new job but I never expected to.

One thing redundancy taught me was never be loyal to a company and just go for the money. It was a big mistake staying at my last company so long and I don't intend on staying at any company for too long again.

I've just been contacted by a company about a job they have going. The pay is £1,750 a year more than I'm on now which ordinarily won't be enough for me to consider moving. Commuting costs will be the same and similar commuting time. The job itself will probably be just as boring. I'm a 40% tax payer.

I'm thinking no its not worth it, but then I'm wondering if I'm just making the same mistakes as before. I'm also still on probation so no guarantee I'll pass that. One difference is that I'm in a small company and this is a large company and my fear of a small company is that they'll realise I'm not very good at my job so I won't pass my probation.



 

Maybe it's time you started to take decisions for yourself instead of taking a straw poll from a bunch of random strangers, based on nothing more than a couple of paragraphs. It's a serious comment, not some sort of snipe. Try googling on 'how to take better decisions' and then put some of the advice into practice.

ushjr said:

couriervanman said:

Find a job that you enjoy and the salary is not so important

That won't pay the bills.

How do you know it won't? You've not found anything you enjoy, so how do you know how much you could earn? While you're doing some googling on decision taking, perhaps you could also try 'how to think positively'?

The job I enjoyed the most only paid around £800 a month, that won't even pay my mortgage let alone anything else.

You should not be negative! If you proclaim you have no skills, you will think you have no skills. Everyone has a skill! Just do what you like to do and move into that area.

When you join a job, it not only pays you but it gives you new skills and new experiences. They will be added to your CV!

When you stay at a company for minimum 1yr, and you go for next interview, interviewer will see that you are not jumping from jobs to jobs. 
Like I said, places like McDonald's, KFC, events (deceased because of covid lockdown) will easily replace you and wouldn't care for how long you stay.

And from your personality, it feels like your kind of job would be outdoors, you don't feel like a desk person or person who likes to stay in one place for a long time. 

Next time you get a job, don't work just for money, because a job gives you more than money. It gives you social skills, working skills, experiences, and teaches you how to deal with business. 

We all need to start our own business one day instead of working for others 24/7.

I really salute all the people who started a small business during lockdown and their business became successful!

And one more thing. 
STOP doubting yourself, you have skills and you are good at other things! 

General_Grant

ivtechcivic said:

ushjr said:

I'm a month into a new job after 6 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I can't say I enjoy my new job but I never expected to.

One thing redundancy taught me was never be loyal to a company and just go for the money. It was a big mistake staying at my last company so long and I don't intend on staying at any company for too long again.

I've just been contacted by a company about a job they have going. The pay is £1,750 a year more than I'm on now which ordinarily won't be enough for me to consider moving. Commuting costs will be the same and similar commuting time. The job itself will probably be just as boring. I'm a 40% tax payer.

I'm thinking no its not worth it, but then I'm wondering if I'm just making the same mistakes as before. I'm also still on probation so no guarantee I'll pass that. One difference is that I'm in a small company and this is a large company and my fear of a small company is that they'll realise I'm not very good at my job so I won't pass my probation.



 

Sorry if you feel you should never be loyal to any company, but this is wrong mentality. 
When you think as an employee, you think like this, but if you think as an employer, you would want employees that give it their all. 

-when it comes to big companies like McDonald's, Tesco, Argos etc. Yes because they are big, it is hard to climb up the ladder and also you may not even be considered despite your hard work. And big companies like this will easily replace you if they don't value their employees.
-having mentality to only go to work for the money will make you miserable at work and to other colleagues. I hate people with that attitude, they come to work, not too friendly to colleagues, and just think they are here for the money without even giving it their all in the job or being a team player. If you decide you will just go to work just for the money would make you a leech. 
At least, even though you do not want to work at a crap job, at least think of the job AS a stepping stone!
If you think of the job as a job to make money, you will hate many jobs out there and be jumping from jobs to job like the movie Jumper. 
-and the pay number doesn't sound right £1,750 a year??? Is this an apprentice job? Or you mean £17,500?
-don't be negative about passing your probation. If you show value in your work ethics, you will pass. If you act lazy at work, you will not pass because people have eyes and ears at work. 

No, the OP meant £1,750.  Read what was written again.  It is an EXTRA £1,750 (on top of a salary which requires payment of 40% tax for some of it).

LudaMusser

If you’ve only been in your current job one month and find it boring already then you’ve got nothing to lose by moving. Sounds like your current job is a stop gap anyway. Always more opportunity in a larger company too 

ivtechcivic

ushjr said:

ivtechcivic said:

ushjr said:

I'm a month into a new job after 6 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I can't say I enjoy my new job but I never expected to.

One thing redundancy taught me was never be loyal to a company and just go for the money. It was a big mistake staying at my last company so long and I don't intend on staying at any company for too long again.

I've just been contacted by a company about a job they have going. The pay is £1,750 a year more than I'm on now which ordinarily won't be enough for me to consider moving. Commuting costs will be the same and similar commuting time. The job itself will probably be just as boring. I'm a 40% tax payer.

I'm thinking no its not worth it, but then I'm wondering if I'm just making the same mistakes as before. I'm also still on probation so no guarantee I'll pass that. One difference is that I'm in a small company and this is a large company and my fear of a small company is that they'll realise I'm not very good at my job so I won't pass my probation.



 

Sorry if you feel you should never be loyal to any company, but this is wrong mentality. 
When you think as an employee, you think like this, but if you think as an employer, you would want employees that give it their all. 

-when it comes to big companies like McDonald's, Tesco, Argos etc. Yes because they are big, it is hard to climb up the ladder and also you may not even be considered despite your hard work. And big companies like this will easily replace you if they don't value their employees.
-having mentality to only go to work for the money will make you miserable at work and to other colleagues. I hate people with that attitude, they come to work, not too friendly to colleagues, and just think they are here for the money without even giving it their all in the job or being a team player. If you decide you will just go to work just for the money would make you a leech. 
At least, even though you do not want to work at a crap job, at least think of the job AS a stepping stone!
If you think of the job as a job to make money, you will hate many jobs out there and be jumping from jobs to job like the movie Jumper. 
-and the pay number doesn't sound right £1,750 a year??? Is this an apprentice job? Or you mean £17,500?
-don't be negative about passing your probation. If you show value in your work ethics, you will pass. If you act lazy at work, you will not pass because people have eyes and ears at work. 

ivtechcivic said:

ushjr said:

JamoLew said:

Make the most of it while you can

You are bored and arent good at your job yet earn enough to pay 40% tax -- be thankfull that there are companies around willing to pay stupid amounts of money for that

The big worry has been how long will it last. 

AskAsk said:

ushjr said:

General_Grant said:

ushjr said:

I'm a month into a new job after 6 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I can't say I enjoy my new job but I never expected to.

One thing redundancy taught me was never be loyal to a company and just go for the money. It was a big mistake staying at my last company so long and I don't intend on staying at any company for too long again.

I've just been contacted by a company about a job they have going. The pay is £1,750 a year more than I'm on now which ordinarily won't be enough for me to consider moving. Commuting costs will be the same and similar commuting time. The job itself will probably be just as boring. I'm a 40% tax payer.

I'm thinking no its not worth it, but then I'm wondering if I'm just making the same mistakes as before. I'm also still on probation so no guarantee I'll pass that. One difference is that I'm in a small company and this is a large company and my fear of a small company is that they'll realise I'm not very good at my job so I won't pass my probation.

You ask whether you should consider the new job.  Yes, consider it further.  
Even if it is boring you would be paid more for enduring the boredom.

If you are not very good at your job perhaps it's better to find a job where you would feel you were making a good fist of it and be less concerned at being found out.

No idea what I'm good at. I'm useless at anything practical and I'm really not as clever as people think I am.

i am very good at what i do but like yourself, i do give people over confidence in my abilities.  people tend to think i am cleverer than i really am, and they place too much confidence in me.  a lot of this is my own fault as i do give people the impression that i know it all intentionally, but a lot of the time, people then get carried away and stretch this too far.

it can put pressure on me as then i feel i have to live up to expectations and i can get into very awkward situations when i fail miserably.

i personally do not think it is a good idea however to go from job to job quickly as this will look bad on your CV.  i would stick with the current job unless you really hate it.  a small company may be more tolerant of your failings as well to that of a big company, who has many staff and so you are less valued.

from my experience, i find smaller companies are much better to work for than the bigger ones, but they tend to pay less than the bigger companies.

I can be knowledgeable about things I like, for example I could probably tell you who drove for which team in every formula one season since I started following it. My brains like a sieve when it comes to remembering anything useful though.

couriervanman said:

ushjr said:

couriervanman said:

Find a job that you enjoy and the salary is not so important

That won't pay the bills.

General_Grant said:

ushjr said:

I'm a month into a new job after 6 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I can't say I enjoy my new job but I never expected to.

One thing redundancy taught me was never be loyal to a company and just go for the money. It was a big mistake staying at my last company so long and I don't intend on staying at any company for too long again.

I've just been contacted by a company about a job they have going. The pay is £1,750 a year more than I'm on now which ordinarily won't be enough for me to consider moving. Commuting costs will be the same and similar commuting time. The job itself will probably be just as boring. I'm a 40% tax payer.

I'm thinking no its not worth it, but then I'm wondering if I'm just making the same mistakes as before. I'm also still on probation so no guarantee I'll pass that. One difference is that I'm in a small company and this is a large company and my fear of a small company is that they'll realise I'm not very good at my job so I won't pass my probation.

You ask whether you should consider the new job.  Yes, consider it further.  
Even if it is boring you would be paid more for enduring the boredom.

If you are not very good at your job perhaps it's better to find a job where you would feel you were making a good fist of it and be less concerned at being found out.

No idea what I'm good at. I'm useless at anything practical and I'm really not as clever as people think I am.

Better to be happy in a job that pays slightly less than stressed out/fed up/hating your job and the people you work with

I find people can be too eager to cut meetings short etc and get back to their work whereas I like to spend as much time away from my desk as possible. 

TELLIT01 said:

£1750 will only give you about £1000 per year extra after tax so a move purely for the money is barely worth it as you are already earning good money.  If I was in your position I would be looking at which gave the greater job satisfaction.

That's what I was thinking.

Marcon said:

ushjr said:

I'm a month into a new job after 6 months of unemployment after being made redundant. I can't say I enjoy my new job but I never expected to.

One thing redundancy taught me was never be loyal to a company and just go for the money. It was a big mistake staying at my last company so long and I don't intend on staying at any company for too long again.

I've just been contacted by a company about a job they have going. The pay is £1,750 a year more than I'm on now which ordinarily won't be enough for me to consider moving. Commuting costs will be the same and similar commuting time. The job itself will probably be just as boring. I'm a 40% tax payer.

I'm thinking no its not worth it, but then I'm wondering if I'm just making the same mistakes as before. I'm also still on probation so no guarantee I'll pass that. One difference is that I'm in a small company and this is a large company and my fear of a small company is that they'll realise I'm not very good at my job so I won't pass my probation.



 

Maybe it's time you started to take decisions for yourself instead of taking a straw poll from a bunch of random strangers, based on nothing more than a couple of paragraphs. It's a serious comment, not some sort of snipe. Try googling on 'how to take better decisions' and then put some of the advice into practice.

ushjr said:

couriervanman said:

Find a job that you enjoy and the salary is not so important

That won't pay the bills.

How do you know it won't? You've not found anything you enjoy, so how do you know how much you could earn? While you're doing some googling on decision taking, perhaps you could also try 'how to think positively'?

The job I enjoyed the most only paid around £800 a month, that won't even pay my mortgage let alone anything else.

You should not be negative! If you proclaim you have no skills, you will think you have no skills. Everyone has a skill! Just do what you like to do and move into that area.

When you join a job, it not only pays you but it gives you new skills and new experiences. They will be added to your CV!

When you stay at a company for minimum 1yr, and you go for next interview, interviewer will see that you are not jumping from jobs to jobs. 
Like I said, places like McDonald's, KFC, events (deceased because of covid lockdown) will easily replace you and wouldn't care for how long you stay.

And from your personality, it feels like your kind of job would be outdoors, you don't feel like a desk person or person who likes to stay in one place for a long time. 

Next time you get a job, don't work just for money, because a job gives you more than money. It gives you social skills, working skills, experiences, and teaches you how to deal with business. 

We all need to start our own business one day instead of working for others 24/7.

I really salute all the people who started a small business during lockdown and their business became successful!

And one more thing. 
STOP doubting yourself, you have skills and you are good at other things! 

I joined my last company with a positive attitude. Although money has always been important, I was going for those things you mentioned too.

I thought I was joining a fun and sociable company where I'll become an international business traveler. I'd be one of those people I'd often see on the train on their way to a meeting. I'd be one of those people you see in the outside area of a crowded pub for after work drinks on a Friday. 

The harsh reality was that I struggled to have a conversation with anyone to the point I started struggling to have conversations with people I'd been friends with for years that I'd never struggled to converse with before. People would ask me what my job was in a judgmental way and I never really knew the answer. I only had one international trip and everyone else on it kept conversing about the numerous international trips they've been on. Even after work drinks were a disappointment because I don't like drinking without having my dinner first. 

Then I guess the problem are the people you ate working with

MalMonroe

Have you thought of retraining? For anything! The world is your oyster and you only have one life and all those other cliches. But you're obviously just going from one job you don't really like to another you don't really like. It shouldn't come down to what colleagues you like or don't like. It sounds to me like you may be depressed. And who can blame you right now? Before I retired, I didn't know that I was depressed until someone at work said they thought I was. How rude! I thought and then burst into tears. She was right. I went to see my doctor who prescribed tablets (they helped) and therapy (it helped too). 

You are really restless and need a job that is going to tax you. Have a look around, google things, see what you could do. One example is my friend's son, a very talented musician and actor and only 18. He was offered a place to study at the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Art. He was going to accept when the pandemic struck. He decided he wanted to volunteer as an ambulance driver. He loves it so much he's now on a course to become a paramedic. A complete turnaround and who would have thought it? Not us. That's just really an example of how a person's life can change. Your life could change and I wouldn't advise taking that next job if it's the same as the one you have and you don't have any enthusiasm. Someone who really wants that kind of life and job could have it instead. But it isn't you.