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Self employment STATUS question
marc3
Posts: 316 Forumite
Hi ,
I am sure there will be threads on here debating what qualifies as self employed-if anyone can point me to the links-great-(i can't get on with the search engines ).
That given-my specific question/interest .
Obviously loads of debate as to what qualifies as self emp .and when one is 'employed'.
Remains to me a bit grey -i am self emplyd -which suits well -but always a bit dubious as i get all of my 'enquiries from one source '-albeit they are a large regional company who insist i am properly Self emplyd ,and things are done 'right ' and checked with hmrc (again-suits both parties ).
That given,it has become mandatory from my enquiry source/company to log onto/register with certain social media sites and 'mandatory 'to attend certain meetings etc.
my own details also thus appear on these sites and accessible to 'others'
that dilutes my freedom/privacy and arguably 'privilege' of being self emplyd.
No major issue -but it does make me wonder where i am getting 'directives'/no choice- whether i am rightly self emplyd as i am being (through choice currently ) controlled by others .
i am not looking to 'make waves', over it but behind the scenes i do like to know where i stand
what does the team think ,and is their in fact a strengthening case that as such , i am not self emplyd ?
I am sure there will be threads on here debating what qualifies as self employed-if anyone can point me to the links-great-(i can't get on with the search engines ).
That given-my specific question/interest .
Obviously loads of debate as to what qualifies as self emp .and when one is 'employed'.
Remains to me a bit grey -i am self emplyd -which suits well -but always a bit dubious as i get all of my 'enquiries from one source '-albeit they are a large regional company who insist i am properly Self emplyd ,and things are done 'right ' and checked with hmrc (again-suits both parties ).
That given,it has become mandatory from my enquiry source/company to log onto/register with certain social media sites and 'mandatory 'to attend certain meetings etc.
my own details also thus appear on these sites and accessible to 'others'
that dilutes my freedom/privacy and arguably 'privilege' of being self emplyd.
No major issue -but it does make me wonder where i am getting 'directives'/no choice- whether i am rightly self emplyd as i am being (through choice currently ) controlled by others .
i am not looking to 'make waves', over it but behind the scenes i do like to know where i stand
what does the team think ,and is their in fact a strengthening case that as such , i am not self emplyd ?
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i perhaps should have added above that my 'earnings' are paid direct to me from the company and not from my clients.
i.e -clients pay company-and then company pays me0 -
From what you say here this should almost certainly not be "self-employment".
However, the good news is that if the arrangement suits you and providing you declare your "self-employed" income to HMRC any comeback will be on your "employer" rather than you.
Obviously there are advantages and disadvantages both ways. However ultimately it is not a matter of choice, unless you and your "employer" can adjust the relationship sufficiently to be a clearer self-employed situation (if that is what you both want).
There is (or certainly used to be) an automated employment status tool on the HMRC website. However many people felt that was skewed towards employment in borderline cases.0 -
There is some helpful self employment info on.
Link.co.Uk
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That should be
Crunch.co.Uk
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https://www.gov.uk/guidance/check-employment-status-for-tax
(although note that self-employed/employee can vary for tax status & employment rights)
AlsoSomeone is probably self-employed and doesn’t have the rights of an employee if they’re exempt from PAYE and most of the following are also true:they put in bids or give quotes to get workthey’re not under direct supervision when workingthey submit invoices for the work they’ve donethey’re responsible for paying their own National Insurance and taxthey don’t get holiday or sick pay when they’re not workingthey operate under a contract (sometimes known as a ‘contract for services’ or ‘consultancy agreement’) that uses terms like ‘self-employed’, ‘consultant’ or an ‘independent contractor’"
https://www.gov.uk/employment-status/selfemployed-contractor
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