Difficulty tracing old pensions

thecornflake

Brynsam said:

thecornflake said:

Brynsam said:

Could you give the names of the companies as they were at the time you worked for them? Just a possibility someone reading this might also have worked there.

What does the original scheme documentation say - for example, does it ask you which funds you'd like to invest in and list the funds? That could help identify the scheme. 

O'Rourke construction (now Laing O'Rourke) - Original docs are from RSM Robson Rhodes. Would have to dig it out to see what's mentioned in terms of funds. RSM recommended Blue Sky and L&G but no luck from both of them.
Claybrook Computing, now I believe Equiniti - Again was recommended a few companies to check with but no luck with them.

I think light might be dawning, at least a bit! Could you give some rough dates of employment with each of those, please?

LOR - 2001 to 2006 (changed names while I was working there if that helps as O'Rourke purchased Laing Construction, I was an O'Rourke employee)
Claybrook (yes the one someone listed above) - 2006 - 2010

thecornflake

Update from the pensions advice people - only options are what I've tried already. HMRC probably won't have details other than the amount.

Kynthia

A bit of an 'out there' suggestion but could you find people on LinkedIn who worked at these places the same time as you? Then you could message and ask them what the pension providers were. You might get no responses but I'd happily help someone who messaged me.

Brynsam

In 2008, Claybrook operated a company defined contribution scheme, the name of which was the Xafinity Pension Scheme. I think this may have become part of the National Pension Trust: https://www.nationalpensiontrust.com/national-pension-trust. If you've not already tried them, either give them a call at the number shown at the bottom of that page, or (better) e-mail them: trustonline@XPSGroup.com  

Be aware that XPS are a massive operation administering and advising on very many pension schemes, so you need to give precise information to best help them to help you: full name, current and previous addresses, telephone number, DOB, NI number, the fact you were employed by Claybrook Computing Ltd from 2006-10 and that you were a member of the Xafinity Pension Scheme during that period. Please let me know if that works - although you may have to wait a while for a response, for obvious reasons.

You don't by any miracle remember the precise name of O'Rourke while you were working there, do you? There were lots of them: O'R South, O'R North etc!

thecornflake

Brynsam said:

In 2008, Claybrook operated a company defined contribution scheme, the name of which was the Xafinity Pension Scheme. I think this may have become part of the National Pension Trust: https://www.nationalpensiontrust.com/national-pension-trust. If you've not already tried them, either give them a call at the number shown at the bottom of that page, or (better) e-mail them: trustonline@XPSGroup.com  

Be aware that XPS are a massive operation administering and advising on very many pension schemes, so you need to give precise information to best help them to help you: full name, current and previous addresses, telephone number, DOB, NI number, the fact you were employed by Claybrook Computing Ltd from 2006-10 and that you were a member of the Xafinity Pension Scheme during that period. Please let me know if that works - although you may have to wait a while for a response, for obvious reasons.

You don't by any miracle remember the precise name of O'Rourke while you were working there, do you? There were lots of them: O'R South, O'R North etc!

I don't think I have spoken to XPS so I'll give them a go!
O'Rourke Civil and Structural Engineering was the full name as I worked at head office. Originally based in Grays, Essex then we built and moved into a new office in Crossways business park in Dartford.

bermudianmark

Found them

https://www.reportingaccounts.com/uk/01323856/o'rourke-civil-&-structural-engineering-limited/ They seem now to be based

BRIDGE PLACE ANCHOR BOULEVARD
ADMIRALS PARK CROSSWAYS
DARTFORD
KENT
DA2 6SN

Their former directors can be traced from the following link:-

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/01323856/officers

thecornflake

Thanks everyone for your help. The Bridge Place address is where I used to work and I've already tried speaking to people there.
Spoke to XPS and no records but they did mention Hogg Robinson which I'm fairly sure was the name of the scheme from Claybrook. There are some details on the pension tracing system for Hogg Group which I will try.

xylophone

You mentioned in your previous thread that your state pension forecast showed a COPE.

This indicates a contracted out scheme.

Have you tried checking with HMRC if this relates to either of the periods in question?

See Dairy Queen's post here

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5819467/sp-forecast-not-adding-up/p5

I thought I would give this thread a boost as an illustration of how important it is to check the fine detail of your SP forecast.
I finally received a letter from HMRC. It summarises the outcome of their investigation into the records they held of my NI payments/credits, and contracted-in/out history, as at June 2016. 

Brynsam

thecornflake said:

Thanks everyone for your help. The Bridge Place address is where I used to work and I've already tried speaking to people there.
Spoke to XPS and no records but they did mention Hogg Robinson which I'm fairly sure was the name of the scheme from Claybrook. There are some details on the pension tracing system for Hogg Group which I will try.

Hogg Robinson are doubtless there in the chain of events, but the scheme you were in (at least in 2008!) was called the Xafinity Pension Scheme, as you can see from the following:

thecornflake

xylophone said:

You mentioned in your previous thread that your state pension forecast showed a COPE.

This indicates a contracted out scheme.

Have you tried checking with HMRC if this relates to either of the periods in question?

See Dairy Queen's post here

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5819467/sp-forecast-not-adding-up/p5

I thought I would give this thread a boost as an illustration of how important it is to check the fine detail of your SP forecast.
I finally received a letter from HMRC. It summarises the outcome of their investigation into the records they held of my NI payments/credits, and contracted-in/out history, as at June 2016. 

I haven't checked with HMRC yet, that involves having enough time for a no doubt long and protracted phone call but I will call them tomorrow as I have a day off