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Old DB Company Pension Value

IAMIAM
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If you have an old DB Company Pension saying it will pay out £5000 per annum at age 65. Does that 5k increase in value between now and age 65 or stay at £5k. I got a value through and all it states is it increases in line with CPI up to 5% but is this once in payment meaning from age 65?
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  • 1813
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    Will increase with inflation up to qhen you take it and after
  • IAMIAM
    IAMIAM Posts: 1,425 Forumite
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    So the 5k could be 6k at 65 and then continue to increase in payment too
  • Brynsam
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    edited 30 December 2020 at 8:57PM
    IAMIAM said:
    So the 5k could be 6k at 65 and then continue to increase in payment too
    Not necessarily. Dates of pension scheme membership are important - when did you become a member of the scheme and crucially when did you stop building up benefits in the scheme (this often corresponded with the time you left the employer's service).

    1813 said:
    Will increase with inflation up to qhen you take it and after
    Depends on the answer to the above...
  • IAMIAM
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    Ive checked. It increases in value by RPI up to 5% annually before payments and this is the same after retirement and drawdown. It also has a part saying it increases my final year of service by CPI up to 5% instead of RPI, that was my last year of service, they closed the pension shortly after. 
  • Xbigman
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    The simplest way to clarify this is to look at your annual pension statements. You should see that 5k rise a bit each year. 

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  • Brynsam
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    IAMIAM said:
    Ive checked. It increases in value by RPI up to 5% annually before payments and this is the same after retirement and drawdown. It also has a part saying it increases my final year of service by CPI up to 5% instead of RPI, that was my last year of service, they closed the pension shortly after. 
    If this is a DB scheme you can't have drawdown - that's a concept for defined contribution schemes only.
  • IAMIAM
    IAMIAM Posts: 1,425 Forumite
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    Brynsam said:
    IAMIAM said:
    Ive checked. It increases in value by RPI up to 5% annually before payments and this is the same after retirement and drawdown. It also has a part saying it increases my final year of service by CPI up to 5% instead of RPI, that was my last year of service, they closed the pension shortly after. 
    If this is a DB scheme you can't have drawdown - that's a concept for defined contribution schemes only.
    I meant drawdown as in start making retirement payments
  • Thrugelmir
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    One way to look at the pension is that it will pay you tomorrow what it's worth today. There'll be no investment return. 
  • xylophone
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    When you left the scheme, were you given a statement of deferred benefits showing pre 88 GMP/post 88 GMP/excess?

     What exactly does it show?

    What does your scheme booklet have to say about how GMP revalues in deferment?

    And the excess?

    What is Normal Scheme Pension Age?
  • Albermarle
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    Xbigman said:
    The simplest way to clarify this is to look at your annual pension statements. You should see that 5k rise a bit each year. 

    Darren
    Many DB schemes do not send out such info. Typically you get a statement when you leave and then annually an update on how well the scheme is funded . But not an annual update of your own pension amount , not with mine anyway.
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