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3 year carry forward rule

Mick70
Mick70 Posts: 751 Forumite
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apologies in advance  :)
can anybody help me with this query , this is more or less using actual figures
earnings 2020/21  £80k 
the following would be total payments that have gone into my pensions (was previously DB scheme and as of last year 2019/20  DC scheme only) 
2017/18   11,290
2018/19   192
2019/20   15,236
2020/21  44,151
next year 2021/22   anticipated 43,506
2022/23    anticipated  44,376
2023/24  will have to cap at 40k as no unused allowances to use up from prior 3 years

Using the above figures 
Am I right for saying that the unsued allowances i have that I could pay into 2020/21 would be £93,282 , however i can only pay in up to my earnings of £80k and this includes all contributions - employee , employer and govt tax relief.

1.   Say if i manage to get £60k into 2020/21   - how much unused allowance do I then have for next year 2021/22 to pay in more  (is it just unused allowance for 2018/19 and 2019/20 or do i then deduct the extra £20k I paid in for 2020/21  ? ).
2.   and if i manage to get 60k into 2021/22  how much allowance do i then have to use for 2022/23 ?

I read an article that said you can only use unused annual allowance once so a little confused.

many thanks for your help with this folks,  and merry christmas also
Mick



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  • Is there a reason you have omitted to say what the contributions in 2020:21 will be or is it £0?

    apologies in advance  :)
    can anybody help me with this query , this is more or less using actual figures
    earnings 2020/21  £80k 
    the following would be total payments that have gone into my pensions (was previously DB scheme and as of last year 2019/20  DC scheme only) 
    2017/18   11,290
    2018/19   192
    2019/20   15,236
    2021/22  44,151
    next year 2022/23   anticipated 43,506
    2023/24    anticipated  44,376
    2024/25  will have to cap at 40k as no unused allowances to use up from prior 3 years

    Using the above figures 
    Am I right for saying that the unsued allowances i have that I could pay into 2021/22 would be £93,282 , however i can only pay in up to my earnings of £80k and this includes all contributions - employee , employer and govt tax relief.

    1.   Say if i manage to get £60k into 2021/22   - how much unused allowance do I then have for next year 2022/23 to pay in more  (is it just unused allowance for 2018/19 and 2019/20 or do i then deduct the extra £20k I paid in for 2021/22  ? ).
    2.   and if i manage to get 60k into 2022/23  how much allowance do i then have to use for 2023/34 ?

    I read an article that said you can only use unused annual allowance once so a little confused.

    many thanks for your help with this folks,  and merry christmas also
    Mick




  • Mick70
    Mick70 Posts: 751 Forumite
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    !!!!!! my years are all out by 1 year 
    2021/22  should be 2020/21  and so on.. they are all out by one year, cant even get that right :smile:
  • Mick70
    Mick70 Posts: 751 Forumite
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    I have amended my original post, hopefully

  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,548 Forumite
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    Note that for DB the "amount paid in" is irrelavent for AA purposes, it's the "pension input amount" which the scheme should tell you.
    The earnings/tax relief limit (100% of earnings/£3600), unlike the AA, does not include employer conts, nor can it be carried forwards. There are 100s of threads here explaining it.

  • Mick70
    Mick70 Posts: 751 Forumite
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    yeah for the DB years it is the pension input amount that i have used, i got those figs from the trustees
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