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Employer making me work while sick

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  • 1 Is furlough not preferable to using up your leave? Leave wouldn’t last the full ‘lockdown’

    2 depending on the work environment, calling names that you describe could be absolutely fine

    3 you can refuse to do the shift. You’re sick. But I’d personally prefer the option to get paid, not have a sickness day on record and if I miss calls I miss calls...

    Hi, Our leave is being used, however on our payslips it’s down as FURLOUGH 


    Are they paying you your full pay when it says Furlough?  If not and there is no uplift at the time of your "leave" then that's not paid leave.  For paid leave you have to be paid at your full rate for the time that is classified as paid leave/holiday.
  • 74jax
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    1 Is furlough not preferable to using up your leave? Leave wouldn’t last the full ‘lockdown’

    2 depending on the work environment, calling names that you describe could be absolutely fine

    3 you can refuse to do the shift. You’re sick. But I’d personally prefer the option to get paid, not have a sickness day on record and if I miss calls I miss calls...

    Hi, Our leave is being used, however on our payslips it’s down as FURLOUGH 


    Are they paying you your full pay when it says Furlough?  If not and there is no uplift at the time of your "leave" then that's not paid leave.  For paid leave you have to be paid at your full rate for the time that is classified as paid leave/holiday.
    Op has another thread on here which states the company are topping up 20% to full pay.
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  • lincroft1710
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    Unbelievable. 

    Tell them to go bleep themselves. Go to your gp and get a sick note for a few weeks. Then reassess when you're feeling better mentally and physically.


    And don't be surprised when you get dismissed on the grounds of excessive sick leave, but as I believe you have worked there for less than 2 years, your employer can dismiss you without reason.
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  • Dox
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    I get the working from home, but I may miss phone calls etc from being in the bathroom.  I have notified them of this, but there isn’t much flexibility. Yes ok I should be grateful - but unless you suffer with stomach problems, you can express how bad things can get, you can be in the bathroom for well over and hour with severe pain! 
    I feel like I’ve just taken this job for money .... to pay my bills and I honestly thing they are in the wrong here in regards to a few things. 
    OK, so the employer may be in the wrong in your eyes (and possibly in the wrong full stop), but unless you've got another job lined up, you still have bills to pay and quitting will mean you can't pay them. 

    Either take your phone off the hook or put it on voicemail during your protracted bathroom breaks. 
  • elsien
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    1 Is furlough not preferable to using up your leave? Leave wouldn’t last the full ‘lockdown’

    2 depending on the work environment, calling names that you describe could be absolutely fine

    3 you can refuse to do the shift. You’re sick. But I’d personally prefer the option to get paid, not have a sickness day on record and if I miss calls I miss calls...
    I wouldn't say that was something that would ever be fine, personally speaking. Then again I wouldn't have anyone work related anywhere near my whatsapp unless it was a work phone number I was using for it. 
    The employer is also taking advantage by making employees take leave but they pay it at the lower furlough rate. 
    The question is, how big an issue does the OP want to make of it? 
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    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • KatrinaWaves
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    elsien said:
    1 Is furlough not preferable to using up your leave? Leave wouldn’t last the full ‘lockdown’

    2 depending on the work environment, calling names that you describe could be absolutely fine

    3 you can refuse to do the shift. You’re sick. But I’d personally prefer the option to get paid, not have a sickness day on record and if I miss calls I miss calls...
    I wouldn't say that was something that would ever be fine, personally speaking. Then again I wouldn't have anyone work related anywhere near my whatsapp unless it was a work phone number I was using for it. 
    The employer is also taking advantage by making employees take leave but they pay it at the lower furlough rate. 
    The question is, how big an issue does the OP want to make of it? 
    Which is why I said depending on the work environment...

    It’s a swear word. That’s all. It’s not racist or homophobic or anything. Some people seem to dislike it more than the various other swears but thats personal...
  • General_Grant
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    edited 5 December 2020 at 5:19PM
    elsien said:
    1 Is furlough not preferable to using up your leave? Leave wouldn’t last the full ‘lockdown’

    2 depending on the work environment, calling names that you describe could be absolutely fine

    3 you can refuse to do the shift. You’re sick. But I’d personally prefer the option to get paid, not have a sickness day on record and if I miss calls I miss calls...
    I wouldn't say that was something that would ever be fine, personally speaking. Then again I wouldn't have anyone work related anywhere near my whatsapp unless it was a work phone number I was using for it. 
    The employer is also taking advantage by making employees take leave but they pay it at the lower furlough rate. 
    The question is, how big an issue does the OP want to make of it? 
    Which is why I said depending on the work environment...

    It’s a swear word. That’s all. It’s not racist or homophobic or anything. Some people seem to dislike it more than the various other swears but thats personal...
    Sexist?   Very offensive (in any environment, which is why it is used).
  • KatrinaWaves
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    elsien said:
    1 Is furlough not preferable to using up your leave? Leave wouldn’t last the full ‘lockdown’

    2 depending on the work environment, calling names that you describe could be absolutely fine

    3 you can refuse to do the shift. You’re sick. But I’d personally prefer the option to get paid, not have a sickness day on record and if I miss calls I miss calls...
    I wouldn't say that was something that would ever be fine, personally speaking. Then again I wouldn't have anyone work related anywhere near my whatsapp unless it was a work phone number I was using for it. 
    The employer is also taking advantage by making employees take leave but they pay it at the lower furlough rate. 
    The question is, how big an issue does the OP want to make of it? 
    Which is why I said depending on the work environment...

    It’s a swear word. That’s all. It’s not racist or homophobic or anything. Some people seem to dislike it more than the various other swears but thats personal...
    Sexist?   Very offensive (in any environment, which is why it is used).
    I disagree it’s sexist anymore than the many many many swears associated with male genitals! And people seem to view c*** much harsher than b**** which could also be sexist, but also d*** c*** b**e** n**head w***** etc etc! If we’re gonna take offense to the c word we have to attribute the same to all the others, and we don’t. Therefore I do not see the c word as any worse than any other swear you can call
    someone! 
  • TELLIT01
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    If the OP is working they are not furloughed.  The Government furlough scheme is designed to provide payment to employees when they are unable to work.
  • Dox
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    elsien said:
    1 Is furlough not preferable to using up your leave? Leave wouldn’t last the full ‘lockdown’

    2 depending on the work environment, calling names that you describe could be absolutely fine

    3 you can refuse to do the shift. You’re sick. But I’d personally prefer the option to get paid, not have a sickness day on record and if I miss calls I miss calls...
    I wouldn't say that was something that would ever be fine, personally speaking. Then again I wouldn't have anyone work related anywhere near my whatsapp unless it was a work phone number I was using for it. 
    The employer is also taking advantage by making employees take leave but they pay it at the lower furlough rate. 
    The question is, how big an issue does the OP want to make of it? 
    Which is why I said depending on the work environment...

    It’s a swear word. That’s all. It’s not racist or homophobic or anything. Some people seem to dislike it more than the various other swears but thats personal...
    Sexist?   Very offensive (in any environment, which is why it is used).
    I disagree it’s sexist anymore than the many many many swears associated with male genitals! And people seem to view c*** much harsher than b**** which could also be sexist, but also d*** c*** b**e** n**head w***** etc etc! If we’re gonna take offense to the c word we have to attribute the same to all the others, and we don’t. Therefore I do not see the c word as any worse than any other swear you can call
    someone! 
    How does this sort of bickering answer OP's question?
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