Replacement 'non-smart' meter

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badmemory said:

They won't start doing remote disconnections until most properties have smart meters, otherwise they would never get people to have them fitted, simple logic.

Each and every one of any future disconnections will require a Court Order as is the case today. 

If you have a ‘smart meter’

If you have a smart energy meter in your home, your supplier could potentially disconnect your supply remotely without needing to access to your meter. However, before they do this, they must have:

• contacted you to discuss options for repaying your debt, eg through a repayment plan
• visited your home to assess your personal situation and whether this would affect you being disconnected, eg if you’re disabled or elderly

If they don’t do this and they try and disconnect you, make a complaint to your supplier.

Gerry1

Dolor said:

badmemory said:

They won't start doing remote disconnections until most properties have smart meters, otherwise they would never get people to have them fitted, simple logic.

Each and every one of any future disconnections will require a Court Order as is the case today.

Yeah, right.  But you're talking about non-payment, and that's usually dealt with by the compulsory installation of pre-payment meters, which will disconnect you when your credit runs out.

The PM has vowed to cut carbon emissions by 68% by 2030 based on 1990 levels.  How do this think this will be achieved?  Gas usage will be rationed.  Exceed your allowance and your gas will stop, simple as that.  When your Smart Meter Says NO, you can't argue.

Much the same for electricity, except that rationing won't be by overall usage but by peak demand.  We're not building sufficient new generating capacity to replace old power stations as they get decommissioned, so something's got to give.  To keep the lights on between 4pm and 8pm will mean Time Of Use Tariffs and Block Tariffs as the deterrent nto keep demand below the available supply, but Load Limiting and Load Shedding remote disconnection will be the longstops.  Smart meters have these facilities built in, they're all in the specification.

Were you really gullible enough to think that saving households a mere £11 per year was the only reason behind the £15.9 billion cost of the smart meter rollout? (Source, Table 5)

brewerdave

Gerry1 said:

Dolor said:

badmemory said:

They won't start doing remote disconnections until most properties have smart meters, otherwise they would never get people to have them fitted, simple logic.

Each and every one of any future disconnections will require a Court Order as is the case today.

The PM has vowed to cut carbon emissions by 68% by 2030 based on 1990 levels.  How do this think this will be achieved?  Gas usage will be rationed.  Exceed your allowance and your gas will stop, simple as that.  When your Smart Meter Says NO, you can't argue.

Not going to happen - maximum demand for gas is in the coldest part of the year- think of the fuss if smart meters cut off the heating of little old ladies or families with young children in the depths of an UK winter - a couple of deaths and the Government of the day would be out on their ear!! Stopping new builds having gas boilers and forcing installs of  ASHP/GSHP with panels will knock the edge off domestic demand.
The pressure will come on industry to minimise its use of gas - the brewery I used to run, used frightening amounts of gas.

MWT

brewerdave said:

Not going to happen - maximum demand for gas is in the coldest part of the year- think of the fuss if smart meters cut off the heating of little old ladies or families with young children in the depths of an UK winter - a couple of deaths and the Government of the day would be out on their ear!!

... and if it ever was going to happen the fitting of smart meters would have become compulsory well before any planned use of such a facility...