Raising a grievance with an ex employer

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Why drag up the past if they are an ex employer? 

TBagpuss

A normal disciplinary process is:
1. Investigation, to identify if there is a case to answer
2. Disciplinary meeting, to allow you to respond to any allegations or concerns
3. decision as to outcome and any penalty.
It sounds as though that's exactly what happened in your case. having had the disciplinary meeting and heard from you they decided that there was no need for any formal action. 
It worked the way it was supposed to. 
Yes, it's possible that they could have decided, at the end of the initial investigation, that there was no case to answer and no need for a formal meeting but they didn't chose to do so - maybe they wanted to hear from you directly, maybe they were not wholly satisfied with what you told them about whether or not you were justified, maybe they had advice which was different to the advice you were getting. 
Either way, they did nothing wrong, you were not disciplined, it's 4 years ago and you no longer work for them.
Move on. 

Brynsam

Looking at one of your previous posts https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5596440/changes-to-duties#latest it appears you were working for a government organisation at the time, which could explain exactly why they went through the whole drawn out process.

But why revisit it now? What are you hoping to achieve?

Mrsn

Holding on to this for 4 years isn’t healthy. You need to draw a line under it and find a way to move past the issues it is causing now. 

lincroft1710

Absolutely no mileage in raising a grievance. They would probably either ignore you or make the process extremely unpleasant. And exactly what would you expect as an outcome? Especially as 4 years have elapsed.

Move on! And if you can't, please get some help.

thebrexitunicorn

They have no obligation at all to address a grievance at this point. It’s unlikely to be of any benefit to you to raise the matter. For your own health I suggest letting it go and try to move on, with professional help if necessary. Good luck. 

James_Noble_Bolton

I can imagine you sent through some pain at the time, it can't have been easy. 
But now, ask yourself what you hope to gain from raising a grievance. There is unlikely to be any money in it, just a lot more stress for yourself. 

If you just pursue it you would have to consider if you are suffering PTSD as a result perhaps? 

bobthelog

Hi,
I haven't read the comments on your thread.
To me, this is horrible. How would the CE have liked it if they'd done it to him? I'm unsure what you would sue them for, that's the only thing as you need a 'cause of action' ie - what law have they broken? To give a stupid example, I was very upset that the neighbour's cat used my garden as a toilet (but I moved my bin there temporarily and stopped it thank goodness), I could not sue my neighbour for this distress as there is no law that says "you must not let your cat use a neighbour's property as a toilet".

So you'd need to find which law they have broken first. This could be a breach of your employment contract if your employment contract  (or any other contract) says you are allowed to receive gifts and do as you like with them.

You then need to check the "limitation period". If it is in fact a breach of contract as above, then you have I think 6 years to get your claim to court for a simply contract or 12 years for a more complex one. I am woolly on that part, so you'd have to check.

I think that you are suffering from mild PTSD, but you would need to get an expert to assess you and say that or else there would be no point taking it further. This web page may help: http://www.cesi.org.uk/employment-work-accident/faqs/can-i-sue-my-employer-for-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-how-much-compensation-for-ptsd/ 

Finally, please note that I am taking my ex employer to court and it is incredibly stressful as they have lots of money and I don't. So be warned that further action is not for the faint hearted and I would only ever do it if it was truly worth it. The expert will cost you money upfront as will legal fees if you need them. if the expert says you do have PTSD and that it was caused by them then I would initially just write to them as they may settle out of court and save you the hassle. 

Good luck!

lincroft1710

bobthelog said:

Hi,
I haven't read the comments on your thread.
To me, this is horrible. How would the CE have liked it if they'd done it to him? I'm unsure what you would sue them for, that's the only thing as you need a 'cause of action' ie - what law have they broken? To give a stupid example, I was very upset that the neighbour's cat used my garden as a toilet (but I moved my bin there temporarily and stopped it thank goodness), I could not sue my neighbour for this distress as there is no law that says "you must not let your cat use a neighbour's property as a toilet".

So you'd need to find which law they have broken first. This could be a breach of your employment contract if your employment contract  (or any other contract) says you are allowed to receive gifts and do as you like with them.

You then need to check the "limitation period". If it is in fact a breach of contract as above, then you have I think 6 years to get your claim to court for a simply contract or 12 years for a more complex one. I am woolly on that part, so you'd have to check.

I think that you are suffering from mild PTSD, but you would need to get an expert to assess you and say that or else there would be no point taking it further. This web page may help: http://www.cesi.org.uk/employment-work-accident/faqs/can-i-sue-my-employer-for-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-how-much-compensation-for-ptsd/ 

Finally, please note that I am taking my ex employer to court and it is incredibly stressful as they have lots of money and I don't. So be warned that further action is not for the faint hearted and I would only ever do it if it was truly worth it. The expert will cost you money upfront as will legal fees if you need them. if the expert says you do have PTSD and that it was caused by them then I would initially just write to them as they may settle out of court and save you the hassle. 

Good luck!

If you had bothered to read the thread and subsequent comments, you would have seen that the OP's former employer did nothing that would be actionable by an employee.