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Why Vanguard's Tracking Error?

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Why have Vanguard's Lifestrategy funds developed such a large tracking error? Should I be a concerned investor? A = the index. B +VLS 100%
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  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 119,796 Forumite
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    VLS is not an index tracker.  It is a collection of multi-asset funds with weightings made under a management decision.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • eskbanker
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    VLS 100 doesn't track an index!  What are you measuring it against?
  • What index are you using?
  • Prism
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    I'm not even sure why VLS100 exists
  • ColdIron
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    A = the index.
    What index is A?
  • Thrugelmir
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    Prism said:
    I'm not even sure why VLS100 exists
    Provides an attractive low cost option for small investors that will never be the best nor the worst.  While Vanguards management team pay themselves good remuneration packages. 
  • AnotherJoe
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    edited 29 October 2020 at 8:54AM
    Yep, your question shows a couple of fundamental misunderstandings  such as "VLS tracks an index" (it tracks many and thus none) and the index it's tracking (which it isn't) would be a good one to track. 
    And probably also, it's a good fund to hold better than other global low cost funds. Rather than one whose time has passed and whose underlying premise, that holding 25% nominally UK registered companies, was ever a good idea rather than a marketing gimmick. 
    FWIW that recent diversion from whatever that benchmark  is , which might be an index but isn't one VLS is tracking but rather is being compared to, is most likely due to that 25% allocation. 
  • Alexland
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    edited 29 October 2020 at 11:01AM
    It's worth noting that Vanguard themselves described the fund as "not benchmarked" so I don't know where you got the information about which benchmark to compare performance against? I'm with Prism and don't see the need for VLS100 as their All Cap fund is a better option at a similar ongoing charge.

  • dunstonh
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    Alexland said:
    It's worth noting that Vanguard themselves described the fund as "not benchmarked" so I don't know where you got the information about which benchmark to compare performance against? I'm with Prism and don't see the need for VLS100 as their All Cap fund is a better option at a similar ongoing charge.

    VLS100 is an anomaly and you can easily argue that it shouldn't exist.  But they have £2058.98m invested in it.  So, commercially, it makes sense for Vanguard to offer it.  That is £2058.98m worth of investors that don't know what they are doing.

    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • dunstonh said:
    Alexland said:
    It's worth noting that Vanguard themselves described the fund as "not benchmarked" so I don't know where you got the information about which benchmark to compare performance against? I'm with Prism and don't see the need for VLS100 as their All Cap fund is a better option at a similar ongoing charge.

    VLS100 is an anomaly and you can easily argue that it shouldn't exist.  But they have £2058.98m invested in it.  So, commercially, it makes sense for Vanguard to offer it.  That is £2058.98m worth of investors that don't know what they are doing.

    It does seem pointless. They already have FTSE All World, FTSE Global All Cap, FTSE Developed World and FTSE Developed World ex UK, ESG Developed World All Cap, and the active and factor global equity funds.
    Maybe they were thinking they'd look stupid if they brought out the LS range without a 100% option? It does provide consistency and simplicity, but the idea of Vanguard setting the home bias at 25% seems silly. Why not a global LS and a UK LS range to make it clearer? Why not provide educational materials to help more amateur retail investors "build your own portfolio".
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