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  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 27,864 Forumite
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    arnoldy said:
    Gerry1 said:
    You don't need a £157.50 TV licence just because you have a TV, only if you watch or record TV programmes as they are broadcast (any channel, even if on a computer or smartphone) or if you use the BBC iPlayer.  You are not obliged to respond or contact TV Licensing, but they are likely to hound and threaten you relentlessly if you don't have a licence: they assume everyone is guilty until proven innocent.  You don't have to let them in to your property unless they have a valid search warrant.  If you don't need a licence because you only watch online catch-up programmes from non-BBC channels, just Withdraw their Implied Right Of Access.  Similarly, you can permanently stop the nastygrams by warning them that as you are now a WOIRA they can't send the boys round, hence any threats to do so will be dealt with under the Malicious Communications Act 1988 which makes it illegal to send or deliver letters or other articles for the purpose of causing distress or anxiety.
    Thanks this is excellent and should be publicized on the main MSE site more. 
    I do not think MSE will publish advice to assist tax evasion .
    What should be publicised is that the value for money in paying £3 a week for probably the best broadcasting operation in the world and with no adverts , is probably way ahead of anything else you could spend £3 a week on .
  • arnoldy said:
    Gerry1 said:
    You don't need a £157.50 TV licence just because you have a TV, only if you watch or record TV programmes as they are broadcast (any channel, even if on a computer or smartphone) or if you use the BBC iPlayer.  You are not obliged to respond or contact TV Licensing, but they are likely to hound and threaten you relentlessly if you don't have a licence: they assume everyone is guilty until proven innocent.  You don't have to let them in to your property unless they have a valid search warrant.  If you don't need a licence because you only watch online catch-up programmes from non-BBC channels, just Withdraw their Implied Right Of Access.  Similarly, you can permanently stop the nastygrams by warning them that as you are now a WOIRA they can't send the boys round, hence any threats to do so will be dealt with under the Malicious Communications Act 1988 which makes it illegal to send or deliver letters or other articles for the purpose of causing distress or anxiety.
    Thanks this is excellent and should be publicized on the main MSE site more. 
    I do not think MSE will publish advice to assist tax evasion .
    What should be publicised is that the value for money in paying £3 a week for probably the best broadcasting operation in the world and with no adverts , is probably way ahead of anything else you could spend £3 a week on .
    I think the BBC offers fair value for money for many, but watching entertainment programmes shouldn't be taxed. In an open economy why should someone have to pay fro a licence even where they don't want to avail themselves of that service, and simply want to use commercial stations. The idea that you can be fined and even jailed for this is just bizarre, BBC needs to transform to a subscription service and may well then retain a free to view element, and they can afford to cut a few staff and many wages. 
  • garmeg
    garmeg Posts: 771 Forumite
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    arnoldy said:
    Gerry1 said:
    You don't need a £157.50 TV licence just because you have a TV, only if you watch or record TV programmes as they are broadcast (any channel, even if on a computer or smartphone) or if you use the BBC iPlayer.  You are not obliged to respond or contact TV Licensing, but they are likely to hound and threaten you relentlessly if you don't have a licence: they assume everyone is guilty until proven innocent.  You don't have to let them in to your property unless they have a valid search warrant.  If you don't need a licence because you only watch online catch-up programmes from non-BBC channels, just Withdraw their Implied Right Of Access.  Similarly, you can permanently stop the nastygrams by warning them that as you are now a WOIRA they can't send the boys round, hence any threats to do so will be dealt with under the Malicious Communications Act 1988 which makes it illegal to send or deliver letters or other articles for the purpose of causing distress or anxiety.
    Thanks this is excellent and should be publicized on the main MSE site more. 
    I do not think MSE will publish advice to assist tax evasion .
    What should be publicised is that the value for money in paying £3 a week for probably the best broadcasting operation in the world and with no adverts , is probably way ahead of anything else you could spend £3 a week on .
    I think the BBC offers fair value for money for many, but watching entertainment programmes shouldn't be taxed. In an open economy why should someone have to pay fro a licence even where they don't want to avail themselves of that service, and simply want to use commercial stations. The idea that you can be fined and even jailed for this is just bizarre, BBC needs to transform to a subscription service and may well then retain a free to view element, and they can afford to cut a few staff and many wages. 
    Reminds me of ...

    https://youtu.be/4lzS8yW8INA
  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 27,864 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Name Dropper
    garmeg said:
    arnoldy said:
    Gerry1 said:
    You don't need a £157.50 TV licence just because you have a TV, only if you watch or record TV programmes as they are broadcast (any channel, even if on a computer or smartphone) or if you use the BBC iPlayer.  You are not obliged to respond or contact TV Licensing, but they are likely to hound and threaten you relentlessly if you don't have a licence: they assume everyone is guilty until proven innocent.  You don't have to let them in to your property unless they have a valid search warrant.  If you don't need a licence because you only watch online catch-up programmes from non-BBC channels, just Withdraw their Implied Right Of Access.  Similarly, you can permanently stop the nastygrams by warning them that as you are now a WOIRA they can't send the boys round, hence any threats to do so will be dealt with under the Malicious Communications Act 1988 which makes it illegal to send or deliver letters or other articles for the purpose of causing distress or anxiety.
    Thanks this is excellent and should be publicized on the main MSE site more. 
    I do not think MSE will publish advice to assist tax evasion .
    What should be publicised is that the value for money in paying £3 a week for probably the best broadcasting operation in the world and with no adverts , is probably way ahead of anything else you could spend £3 a week on .
    I think the BBC offers fair value for money for many, but watching entertainment programmes shouldn't be taxed. In an open economy why should someone have to pay fro a licence even where they don't want to avail themselves of that service, and simply want to use commercial stations. The idea that you can be fined and even jailed for this is just bizarre, BBC needs to transform to a subscription service and may well then retain a free to view element, and they can afford to cut a few staff and many wages. 
    Reminds me of ...

    https://youtu.be/4lzS8yW8INA
    £400 in 1980 would = about £1000 today .
    I would willingly pay that not to have to sit through the adverts on Sky News ; Postcode lottery ; ambulance chasing lawyers ; sky promotions ; endless charity pleas etc :p
  • garmeg
    garmeg Posts: 771 Forumite
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    garmeg said:
    arnoldy said:
    Gerry1 said:
    You don't need a £157.50 TV licence just because you have a TV, only if you watch or record TV programmes as they are broadcast (any channel, even if on a computer or smartphone) or if you use the BBC iPlayer.  You are not obliged to respond or contact TV Licensing, but they are likely to hound and threaten you relentlessly if you don't have a licence: they assume everyone is guilty until proven innocent.  You don't have to let them in to your property unless they have a valid search warrant.  If you don't need a licence because you only watch online catch-up programmes from non-BBC channels, just Withdraw their Implied Right Of Access.  Similarly, you can permanently stop the nastygrams by warning them that as you are now a WOIRA they can't send the boys round, hence any threats to do so will be dealt with under the Malicious Communications Act 1988 which makes it illegal to send or deliver letters or other articles for the purpose of causing distress or anxiety.
    Thanks this is excellent and should be publicized on the main MSE site more. 
    I do not think MSE will publish advice to assist tax evasion .
    What should be publicised is that the value for money in paying £3 a week for probably the best broadcasting operation in the world and with no adverts , is probably way ahead of anything else you could spend £3 a week on .
    I think the BBC offers fair value for money for many, but watching entertainment programmes shouldn't be taxed. In an open economy why should someone have to pay fro a licence even where they don't want to avail themselves of that service, and simply want to use commercial stations. The idea that you can be fined and even jailed for this is just bizarre, BBC needs to transform to a subscription service and may well then retain a free to view element, and they can afford to cut a few staff and many wages. 
    Reminds me of ...

    https://youtu.be/4lzS8yW8INA
    £400 in 1980 would = about £1000 today .
    I would willingly pay that not to have to sit through the adverts on Sky News ; Postcode lottery ; ambulance chasing lawyers ; sky promotions ; endless charity pleas etc :p
    The £32 licence fee in 1980 translates to £80. In reality it is double that amount.
  • garmeg said:
    arnoldy said:
    Gerry1 said:
    You don't need a £157.50 TV licence just because you have a TV, only if you watch or record TV programmes as they are broadcast (any channel, even if on a computer or smartphone) or if you use the BBC iPlayer.  You are not obliged to respond or contact TV Licensing, but they are likely to hound and threaten you relentlessly if you don't have a licence: they assume everyone is guilty until proven innocent.  You don't have to let them in to your property unless they have a valid search warrant.  If you don't need a licence because you only watch online catch-up programmes from non-BBC channels, just Withdraw their Implied Right Of Access.  Similarly, you can permanently stop the nastygrams by warning them that as you are now a WOIRA they can't send the boys round, hence any threats to do so will be dealt with under the Malicious Communications Act 1988 which makes it illegal to send or deliver letters or other articles for the purpose of causing distress or anxiety.
    Thanks this is excellent and should be publicized on the main MSE site more. 
    I do not think MSE will publish advice to assist tax evasion .
    What should be publicised is that the value for money in paying £3 a week for probably the best broadcasting operation in the world and with no adverts , is probably way ahead of anything else you could spend £3 a week on .
    I think the BBC offers fair value for money for many, but watching entertainment programmes shouldn't be taxed. In an open economy why should someone have to pay fro a licence even where they don't want to avail themselves of that service, and simply want to use commercial stations. The idea that you can be fined and even jailed for this is just bizarre, BBC needs to transform to a subscription service and may well then retain a free to view element, and they can afford to cut a few staff and many wages. 
    Reminds me of ...

    https://youtu.be/4lzS8yW8INA
    £400 in 1980 would = about £1000 today .
    I would willingly pay that not to have to sit through the adverts on Sky News ; Postcode lottery ; ambulance chasing lawyers ; sky promotions ; endless charity pleas etc :p
    You watch tv live?
  • TBC15
    TBC15 Posts: 1,495 Forumite
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    The license fee is worth it for radio 4 alone.


  • garmeg
    garmeg Posts: 771 Forumite
    500 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    garmeg said:
    arnoldy said:
    Gerry1 said:
    You don't need a £157.50 TV licence just because you have a TV, only if you watch or record TV programmes as they are broadcast (any channel, even if on a computer or smartphone) or if you use the BBC iPlayer.  You are not obliged to respond or contact TV Licensing, but they are likely to hound and threaten you relentlessly if you don't have a licence: they assume everyone is guilty until proven innocent.  You don't have to let them in to your property unless they have a valid search warrant.  If you don't need a licence because you only watch online catch-up programmes from non-BBC channels, just Withdraw their Implied Right Of Access.  Similarly, you can permanently stop the nastygrams by warning them that as you are now a WOIRA they can't send the boys round, hence any threats to do so will be dealt with under the Malicious Communications Act 1988 which makes it illegal to send or deliver letters or other articles for the purpose of causing distress or anxiety.
    Thanks this is excellent and should be publicized on the main MSE site more. 
    I do not think MSE will publish advice to assist tax evasion .
    What should be publicised is that the value for money in paying £3 a week for probably the best broadcasting operation in the world and with no adverts , is probably way ahead of anything else you could spend £3 a week on .
    I think the BBC offers fair value for money for many, but watching entertainment programmes shouldn't be taxed. In an open economy why should someone have to pay fro a licence even where they don't want to avail themselves of that service, and simply want to use commercial stations. The idea that you can be fined and even jailed for this is just bizarre, BBC needs to transform to a subscription service and may well then retain a free to view element, and they can afford to cut a few staff and many wages. 
    Reminds me of ...

    https://youtu.be/4lzS8yW8INA
    £400 in 1980 would = about £1000 today .
    I would willingly pay that not to have to sit through the adverts on Sky News ; Postcode lottery ; ambulance chasing lawyers ; sky promotions ; endless charity pleas etc :p
    Actually nearer £1,600


  • Albermarle
    Albermarle Posts: 27,864 Forumite
    10,000 Posts Seventh Anniversary Name Dropper
    You watch tv live?

    Mainly , but I am over 60 so that is probably why .

    The license fee is worth it for radio 4 alone

    Agree !

  • You planning on living in the north or south?


    Thanks all for your replies.  Suppose I should have said its back to Glasgow for me from sunny Cyprus.. :)
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