DAY RATE - PERMANENT - DUAL WORK

dranzer01

Anyone here on a permanent role and they do day rate work as well simultaneously....?

anyone working more than one day rate contract simultaneously....?

Exactly how are you doing this? Is this EXTREMELY hard for you to do/,manage?

I potentially have a possibility to work day rate along my new perm position; and at first i was thinking no there's no point but because of current times, everyone is at home.... so now im thinking maybe this would be a good money booster......?


Your thoughts on you doing this and or advices would be great

Thanks,

Comms69

If you mean being paid to do 2 jobs at the same time - that's likely fraud. 

Dox

Comms69 said:

If you mean being paid to do 2 jobs at the same time - that's likely fraud. 

Why? Plenty of people do two jobs 'at the same time' and are productive in both. An employer or client is soon going to spot if you aren't delivering on whatever your objectives are.

OP - impossible to answer your question. Depends on the types of job in question, how disciplined/resourceful/skilled you are (and how much stamina you have).

dranzer01

Comms69 said:

If you mean being paid to do 2 jobs at the same time - that's likely fraud. 

not sure where this came from, but ok

Comms69

I mean if you are literally paid for the same hours worked and don’t inform them that is likely to be fraud. 

Sandtree

dranzer01 said:

Anyone here on a permanent role and they do day rate work as well simultaneously....?

anyone working more than one day rate contract simultaneously....?

You probably need to be a bit clearer about what you are considering, and especially if you are explicitly considering day rate rather than hourly/part day.

The theoretical advantage of a day rate agreement is that you get paid your £500 (or whatever the rate is) if you work 1 hour or 18 hours though most contracts will stipulate that they anticipate it to average out to at least 8 hours a day. The other consideration is what days/hours you can realistically work. 

Personally never done it, my day rate is healthy and most the time demands well over 8 hours a day and I value my weekends. I do know one chap who's carved himself out a little niche in some council housing software migration and he's typically working multiple part time day rate contracts which has resulted in him billing anywhere between 5 and 8 days per week to his various clients but thats often via doing a full day with one client and then an out of hours half day with another and the occasional saturday etc.

He is less risk adverse than I am and having done the same thing 20 plus times has a number of tricks to do what others think will take a full day within a couple of hours and will sit with the 2-3 laptops open so that a basic check of hours logged in will show him doing full days.

It is not technically fraud as his invoice will simply say he did "one professional day" which could be anything from an hour or more.

Savvy_Sue

Bear in mind that many employers have in their contract either that you will NOT work for anyone else, or that you will obtain their permission before doing so. 

Sandtree

Savvy_Sue said:

Bear in mind that many employers have in their contract either that you will NOT work for anyone else, or that you will obtain their permission before doing so. 

Not an employer if you’re a day rate contractor 

Savvy_Sue

But the OP said they had a permanent role.

To me, that sounds like an employer. Especially as they talk about it being a perm position.

Now, you can argue that the day rate contracting doesn't involve another employer, but if I wanted to undertake other paid work, in any shape or form, my employer needs to know.

dranzer01

Yeah, to clarify i will be employed. However, because I will be 'wfh' I thought to seek day rate contract roles (still) within insurance. But of course, some companies say 'do you have a non compete or any other interests in other similar companies or directorships' etc etc

Comms69

dranzer01 said:

Yeah, to clarify i will be employed. However, because I will be 'wfh' I thought to seek day rate contract roles (still) within insurance. But of course, some companies say 'do you have a non compete or any other interests in other similar companies or directorships' etc etc

So you do plan to in effect be paid by two employers for the same time worked?