Proof of identity -original birth certificate

retroman62

comeandgo said:

It's a copy, you need an original which means a staff member will type up the details on a new certificate.

Thanks but how would I go about this over and above the link: https://www.gov.uk/order-copy-birth-death-marriage-certificate which produces copies. I’ve not seen anything anywhere that enables me to get a staff member to type up a new certificate.ll

jonesMUFCforever

retroman62 said:

Thank you for all your comments.If you click on the following link, then this is the style of certified copy of birth certificate which we got when we applied for the certificate (JonesMUFCforever): https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/5/54/Smith-26424.jpg I can’t see why this isn’t acceptable, especially as it’s an official certified copy.

That is the short version - if you go to gov.uk and search for 'How to get a copy of a birth certificate' it will guide you.
As I said it will cost £11 and it will be the longer valid size.
(Please don't ask what difference it makes which version you have because I don't know)

t0rt0ise

jonesMUFCforever said:

retroman62 said:

Thank you for all your comments.If you click on the following link, then this is the style of certified copy of birth certificate which we got when we applied for the certificate (JonesMUFCforever): https://www.wikitree.com/photo.php/5/54/Smith-26424.jpg I can’t see why this isn’t acceptable, especially as it’s an official certified copy.

That is the short version - if you go to gov.uk and search for 'How to get a copy of a birth certificate' it will guide you.
As I said it will cost £11 and it will be the longer valid size.
(Please don't ask what difference it makes which version you have because I don't know)

That looks like a long version to me. I bought a short version one years ago and it has practically nothing on it but name, sex and date and it's accepted everywhere. It sounds as if the people dealing with it don't know what they are talking about. I'd raise a complaint.

westv

Why is a birth certificate ( which could have been issued decades ago) valid for ID purposes but a passport that might have expired a year or two ago not? 

dunstonh

westv said:

Why is a birth certificate ( which could have been issued decades ago) valid for ID purposes but a passport that might have expired a year or two ago not? 

It is not normally accepted by most as proof of ID.   However, in the past, pension companies would often want a birth certificate for proof of date of birth.    Many of the commercial providers have moved to electronic checking but it is still quite common to have occupational pension administrators request the birth certificate, passport or driving licence for proof of age.
I didn't think anyone accepted an out-of-date passport for ID purposes.

retroman62

t0rt0ise said:

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That is the short version - if you go to gov.uk and search for 'How to get a copy of a birth certificate' it will guide you.

That looks like a long version to me. I bought a short version one years ago and it has practically nothing on it but name, sex and date and it's accepted everywhere. It sounds as if the people dealing with it don't know what they are talking about. I'd raise a complaint.

Yes it’s definitely the long version because it has ALL the information on it, not the short version. 

saver_ali

It’s not Mercer’s you’re dealing with, is it? If so, I wish you the best of luck! 😢

squirrelpie

It might be worth remembering that the law relating to nationality and birth certificates changed in the early 80s. If retroman62's friend was born before then the rules and the type(s) of birth certificates are different to those for younger people. All birth certificates are copies AFAIK. The original is in the register where the birth was registered and is likely to be handwritten not typed for older people. As shown in retroman62's example.

jonesMUFCforever

retroman62 said:

t0rt0ise said:

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That is the short version - if you go to gov.uk and search for 'How to get a copy of a birth certificate' it will guide you.

That looks like a long version to me. I bought a short version one years ago and it has practically nothing on it but name, sex and date and it's accepted everywhere. It sounds as if the people dealing with it don't know what they are talking about. I'd raise a complaint.

Yes it’s definitely the long version because it has ALL the information on it, not the short version. 

It is not the long version.
The long version does not have any handwriting it is all typed out.
It is long because it is B4 size not the 'short' version in the picture.

Lorian

JMUFC is right I think - they will be after the LBC (Long Birth Certificate) - you can request one for the appropriate fee.