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  • How does it work if i want a further advance on a buy-to-let mortgage. Will i be charged a fee, for a broker to ask the lender the question of how much, on top of the mortgage, i can borrow?
  • K_S
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    edited 27 January 2021 at 3:25PM
    ReasonPB said:
    How does it work if i want a further advance on a buy-to-let mortgage. Will i be charged a fee, for a broker to ask the lender the question of how much, on top of the mortgage, i can borrow?
    @reasonPB I'm not sure I understand the question? Are you looking to find out how much more you can borrow from your current BTL lender on an existing mortgage? If yes, I don't know of any broker who would charge you to just give a max figure. We wouldn't necessarily need to ask the lender for that anyway, we'd just use their calculator and criteria.
    Even if you want to go ahead with an application and not pay a broker fee, there are plenty of fee-free brokers available as well. Whether you pay a fee or not has no impact on the rates available to you. Or you could go direct to the lender. Plenty of fee-free options.

    I am a Mortgage Adviser - You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. 

    PLEASE DO NOT SEND PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.

  • K_S said:
    ReasonPB said:
    How does it work if i want a further advance on a buy-to-let mortgage. Will i be charged a fee, for a broker to ask the lender the question of how much, on top of the mortgage, i can borrow?
    @reasonPB I'm not sure I understand the question? Are you looking to find out how much more you can borrow from your current BTL lender on an existing mortgage? If yes, I don't know of any broker who would charge you to just give a max figure. We wouldn't necessarily need to ask the lender for that anyway, we'd just use their calculator and criteria.
    Even if you want to go ahead with an application and not pay a broker fee, there are plenty of fee-free brokers available as well. Whether you pay a fee or not has no impact on the rates available to you. Or you could go direct to the lender. Plenty of fee-free options.

    Thanks. Probably more straight forward than i'm thinking. If i could borrow more, is it possible to use that as a deposit against another investment property?
  • K_S
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    edited 27 January 2021 at 3:43PM
    ReasonPB said:
    K_S said:
    ReasonPB said:
    How does it work if i want a further advance on a buy-to-let mortgage. Will i be charged a fee, for a broker to ask the lender the question of how much, on top of the mortgage, i can borrow?
    @reasonPB I'm not sure I understand the question? Are you looking to find out how much more you can borrow from your current BTL lender on an existing mortgage? If yes, I don't know of any broker who would charge you to just give a max figure. We wouldn't necessarily need to ask the lender for that anyway, we'd just use their calculator and criteria.
    Even if you want to go ahead with an application and not pay a broker fee, there are plenty of fee-free brokers available as well. Whether you pay a fee or not has no impact on the rates available to you. Or you could go direct to the lender. Plenty of fee-free options.
    Thanks. Probably more straight forward than i'm thinking. If i could borrow more, is it possible to use that as a deposit against another investment property?
    @reasonpb Depends on your lender's policies. Some lenders will permit it as a reason for a further advance / additional borrowing, some will not. Some will permit it if the onward BTL purchase will be in your personal name but not if it's in a ltd. co spv. Some lenders (like Santander BTL) do not allow further advances at all.

    I am a Mortgage Adviser - You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. 

    PLEASE DO NOT SEND PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.

  • Hb92
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    @K_S Thanks very much this at least gives us a very rough idea on what we can look at. Thanks.
  • perdusys
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    K_S said:
    perdusys said:
    Is there any way of having a mortgage for a property that is let, without it being a "buy to let" mortgage?  My son currently has a mortgage with Landmark ( formerly a Northern Rock Together mortgage) that he is paying £375 annually for a consent to let. The mortgage was taken out in 2007 and when his marriage broke up, he moved away and has let the flat ever since.  The flat is in negative equity, and worth less than the £50,000 mortgage prisoner threshold if you don't include the loan part of the mortgage. This is his only property, and he is unable to sell without losing a fair amount of money.  The rental does not cover his expenses.  His current rate is 5%.
    Any ideas would be welcome, the current mortgage rate is crippling. I'm not even sure you can get a buy to let as every calculator we've filled in has said nothing available.
    @perdusys Unless he evicts the tenant and intends to move back in, I don't know of any way that he could do a residential remortgage with the property being tenanted. For a buy-to-let mortgage, he would need a minimum of 20%+ equity in the property and the rental figures to stack up.

    Thanks, not sure thats going to be possible with a repayment buy to let. The market value is close to or just lower than the outstanding mortgage, then there is the £7K together loan portion of the mortgage.  Rental value would be fine I think on an interest only, but I don't think he wants to take that risk as its quite a depressed area.  I am assuming that Landmark will not remortgage, and its unlikely he could move it?
  • K_S
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    perdusys said:
    K_S said:
    perdusys said:
    Is there any way of having a mortgage for a property that is let, without it being a "buy to let" mortgage?  My son currently has a mortgage with Landmark ( formerly a Northern Rock Together mortgage) that he is paying £375 annually for a consent to let. The mortgage was taken out in 2007 and when his marriage broke up, he moved away and has let the flat ever since.  The flat is in negative equity, and worth less than the £50,000 mortgage prisoner threshold if you don't include the loan part of the mortgage. This is his only property, and he is unable to sell without losing a fair amount of money.  The rental does not cover his expenses.  His current rate is 5%.
    Any ideas would be welcome, the current mortgage rate is crippling. I'm not even sure you can get a buy to let as every calculator we've filled in has said nothing available.
    @perdusys Unless he evicts the tenant and intends to move back in, I don't know of any way that he could do a residential remortgage with the property being tenanted. For a buy-to-let mortgage, he would need a minimum of 20%+ equity in the property and the rental figures to stack up.

    Thanks, not sure thats going to be possible with a repayment buy to let. The market value is close to or just lower than the outstanding mortgage, then there is the £7K together loan portion of the mortgage.  Rental value would be fine I think on an interest only, but I don't think he wants to take that risk as its quite a depressed area.  I am assuming that Landmark will not remortgage, and its unlikely he could move it?
    @perdusys He'll need 20%+ equity to be able to get an interest-only BTL mortgage. Unless he has the cash to put in, that option is not going to work.
    Does he have another property at all that he could take some money out of? Either to sell the property and pay-off the negative equity or to use to remortgage to a BTL?
    You say that he doesn't want to sell it as he will lose a fair amount of money. Realistically, that money is already gone isn't it. And you're just stuck with leeches like the current lender who will milk you for every penny they can lay their hands on.

    I am a Mortgage Adviser - You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. 

    PLEASE DO NOT SEND PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.

  • Hi all, 
    I'm a first-time buyer in a bit of a tricky situation with regards to my credit history, and wondered if anyone could help?
    I'm buying with my partner in the next year
    - Both credit ratings good (I know it means nothing)
    - Combined salary of £80-85k (expecting payrise before then), in full-time permanent jobs (Marketing & Private Nanny)
    - 10% deposit
    BUT
    - I had a serious gambling problem (100+ payday loans over the past 6 years)
    - Most of them 2018 or before
    - By the time we apply for a mortgage, I won't have had any loans in the past year (nearer two years) or gambled in two years

    Will we struggle to get a mortgage? And if we can get a mortgage, do you think we'd be able to borrow 4.5x our salary, or will it likely be a much lower multiple? We're buying near London, so obviously every penny helps massively in that respect...

    I just want to set our expectations somewhere near reality, as the online mortgage calculators don't bring into account the payday loan history (and I won't go for an AIP until it's been at least a year since last payday loan) - the online tools say we can borrow anything from £250-400k, which is just not helpful at all!

    Thank you in advance to anyone who can help!
  • K_S
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    edited 27 January 2021 at 8:37PM
    RyanT1992 said:
    Hi all, 
    I'm a first-time buyer in a bit of a tricky situation with regards to my credit history, and wondered if anyone could help?
    I'm buying with my partner in the next year
    - Both credit ratings good (I know it means nothing)
    - Combined salary of £80-85k (expecting payrise before then), in full-time permanent jobs (Marketing & Private Nanny)
    - 10% deposit
    BUT
    - I had a serious gambling problem (100+ payday loans over the past 6 years)
    - Most of them 2018 or before
    - By the time we apply for a mortgage, I won't have had any loans in the past year (nearer two years) or gambled in two years
    Will we struggle to get a mortgage? And if we can get a mortgage, do you think we'd be able to borrow 4.5x our salary, or will it likely be a much lower multiple? We're buying near London, so obviously every penny helps massively in that respect...
    I just want to set our expectations somewhere near reality, as the online mortgage calculators don't bring into account the payday loan history (and I won't go for an AIP until it's been at least a year since last payday loan) - the online tools say we can borrow anything from £250-400k, which is just not helpful at all!
    Thank you in advance to anyone who can help!
    @ryant1992 It all depends on the specifics. Impossible to predict what the high-LTV market will look like in 6-12 months, but if it's anything like now, I think you might struggle to get anything close to mainstream rates with a 10% deposit and the relatively recent history of payday loans. Whether you are able to potentially borrow 4.5x your guaranteed income will depend on what kind of debt you carry and committed outgoings.
    Besides keeping your credit history squeaky clean, the single best thing you could do to dramatically improve your chances is up your deposit to 15%.
    If you expect to need to absolutely maximise your borrowing, focus on paying off or reducing debt and expensive monthly commitments.

    I am a Mortgage Adviser - You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. 

    PLEASE DO NOT SEND PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.

  • K_S said:
    RyanT1992 said:
    Hi all, 
    I'm a first-time buyer in a bit of a tricky situation with regards to my credit history, and wondered if anyone could help?
    I'm buying with my partner in the next year
    - Both credit ratings good (I know it means nothing)
    - Combined salary of £80-85k (expecting payrise before then), in full-time permanent jobs (Marketing & Private Nanny)
    - 10% deposit
    BUT
    - I had a serious gambling problem (100+ payday loans over the past 6 years)
    - Most of them 2018 or before
    - By the time we apply for a mortgage, I won't have had any loans in the past year (nearer two years) or gambled in two years
    Will we struggle to get a mortgage? And if we can get a mortgage, do you think we'd be able to borrow 4.5x our salary, or will it likely be a much lower multiple? We're buying near London, so obviously every penny helps massively in that respect...
    I just want to set our expectations somewhere near reality, as the online mortgage calculators don't bring into account the payday loan history (and I won't go for an AIP until it's been at least a year since last payday loan) - the online tools say we can borrow anything from £250-400k, which is just not helpful at all!
    Thank you in advance to anyone who can help!
    @ryant1992 It all depends on the specifics. Impossible to predict what the high-LTV market will look like in 6-12 months, but if it's anything like now, I think you might struggle to get anything close to mainstream rates with a 10% deposit and the relatively recent history of payday loans. Whether you are able to potentially borrow 4.5x your guaranteed income will depend on what kind of debt you carry and committed outgoings.
    Besides keeping your credit history squeaky clean, the single best thing you could do to dramatically improve your chances is up your deposit to 15%.
    To be able to maximise your borrowing, focus on paying off or reducing debt and expensive monthly commitments.
    Thank you for the reply, really helpful. Will obviously aim for 15% deposit, but that’s another 6-12 months of saving, which is a lot as I’ve been living with family for 7 years now! We aren’t going to move until the market settles down anyway, although as you say, may not ever settle down again (surely it will though, as banks need people borrowing) 

    Debt wise - No debt at all apart from student loan. 

    What do you mean by committed outgoings? Is that phone bill & gym? We don’t have any dependants or anything. 

    Am I right in thinking (after reading your comment) that the interest rate is linked to your credit history and the 4.5x thing would be linked to my current situation? Or is it all linked? 
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