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Should i include in my personal profile on my cv that i'm a parent ?
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Might have helped if you'd mentioned that in your first post. However I stiIl wouldn't put it on a CV. If they are advertising for part time hours, then the advert would generally say days/evenings/weekends. If unclear I would phone up first to what hours they want, without mentioning children, to see how feasible it is then confirm at interview.ssdkck said:
As i would be looking for part time hours to include weekends or evenings or hours to fit around school i feel i would have to be upfront and tell them that i have 1 child.elsien said:
It's not about being honest or otherwise. It's an unlawful question for them to ask because of the potential for direct or indirect discrimination. Your child care arrangements are none of their business as long as you get to work when needed.ssdkck said:
I didn't know that, but personally i would have to be honest about having children. Why would you not be, i think it would get you into far much more trouble if you wasnt honestAndy_L said:
No you don't (excepting security cleared jobs were they need next of kin details to check you out)ssdkck said:
I understand your point of view. I think some employers welcome working mums and some dont. Its a tricky one because surely if you get an interview you have to let them know which could also be a wrong moveAndy_L said:Dont mention it at all. At best it has no impact, at worst they will bin you because of the potential risk of childcare problems
If they ask a question and you feel your experience as a parent is relevant then by all means say so. But that choice is yours not theirs.
Don't give people the excuse to turn you down before they've even met you.
All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.
Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.4 -
Unfortunately that is true! Some interviewers actually look at fingers for engagement rings as it is eventually become a problem.Dox said:
Not if they become pregnant.TELLIT01 said:If a company welcomes working mums there is really no benefit in stating it in the CV. It can be seen as a potential negative, so leave it out. To be perfectly honest, If I'd had two candidates with equally valid experience I would lean towards the one without children as it is one less potential complication in working life.
The world is not ruined by the wickedness of the wicked, but by the weakness of the good. Napoleon0 -
I worked for a boss who told me not to recruit a woman in her early 30s as she had just got married “so we know what’s next”. (Just for the record, I did offer her the role and had an interesting conversation with said boss).
I also worked for a boss who later told me that he wanted to ask me at interview if I was planning to have children but HR wouldn’t let him (it was a local authority!). He repeatedly threatened that he would be angry and wouldn’t speak to me ever again if I fell pregnant whilst working for him.In another interview (for another company) I was actually asked the question.I also did an internship when I was 16 where one of the consultants working for the company told me he’d not hire a woman for his business as they can fall pregnant.So... would I ever mention kids on a CV? Not a chance. The earliest I’d mention anything is after having impressed them in an interview if it’s absolutely necessary (e.g. if you need to mention working around school). If the shifts are set and advertised in a way they work for you, I wouldn’t mention children at all, none of their business.
Unfortunately there is still a lot of discrimination around women having children - some probably based on bad experience by employers, though I’m in no way saying it’s justified - though, on the other hand, unless you’re desperate for a role as you’re unemployed it will also tell you a lot about the company you’d be working for4 -
By law, The Equality Act 2010, an employer cannot deny anyone employment because they have children. You do not have to mention anything at all about being a parent when you are either applying for, or being interviewed for, a job. It's nothing to do with an employer.ssdkck said:
I understand your point of view. I think some employers welcome working mums and some dont. Its a tricky one because surely if you get an interview you have to let them know which could also be a wrong moveAndy_L said:Dont mention it at all. At best it has no impact, at worst they will bin you because of the potential risk of childcare problems
If an employer denies anyone employment because they are a parent, that employer is breaking the law and could be taken to an Employment Tribunal.
So no, don't mention that you are a parent. If I were you, I'd also have a look on the internet to see how to write up a CV.Please note - taken from the Forum Rules and amended for my own personal use (with thanks) : It is up to you to investigate, check, double-check and check yet again before you make any decisions or take any action based on any information you glean from any of my posts. Although I do carry out careful research before posting and never intend to mislead or supply out-of-date or incorrect information, please do not rely 100% on what you are reading. Verify everything in order to protect yourself as you are responsible for any action you consequently take.1 -
If you did that, you'd be breaking the law. Parents are not obliged to say anything at all about that on any CV, application or interview.TELLIT01 said:If a company welcomes working mums there is really no benefit in stating it in the CV. It can be seen as a potential negative, so leave it out. To be perfectly honest, If I'd had two candidates with equally valid experience I would lean towards the one without children as it is one less potential complication in working life.
I do hope, firstly that you are not an employer and secondly that if you are an employer, you will read up on Employment Law without delay, with particular reference to The Equality Act 2010.
Please note - taken from the Forum Rules and amended for my own personal use (with thanks) : It is up to you to investigate, check, double-check and check yet again before you make any decisions or take any action based on any information you glean from any of my posts. Although I do carry out careful research before posting and never intend to mislead or supply out-of-date or incorrect information, please do not rely 100% on what you are reading. Verify everything in order to protect yourself as you are responsible for any action you consequently take.0 -
Hell no. Don't give a potential employer the opportunity to unlawfully discriminate against you.The only reason being a parent should be on your CV is if it's necessary to explain a period out of work.0
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I wonder how many employers realise this is the case, or have any grasp of what those skills might be? I wonder why men don't do the same thing if these skills and knowledge are so valuable? I can see why they'd be hugely valuable for a job involving babies/children (nothing equips you to deal with a two year old like raising your own!), but otherwise it's hard to fathom what you have in mind. I'd be genuinely interested to know.pramsay13 said:I include it as there are some skills or knowledge that parents have that perhaps those without children do not.0 -
What are these skills or knowledge please?pramsay13 said:I include it as there are some skills or knowledge that parents have that perhaps those without children do not.0 -
In the mid-70s I used to say "unencumbered" on my CV. I doubt whether most employers knew what that meant.
I'm not recommending doing that now!0 -
Don't mention it. It is not relevant to your ability to do the job.
If your child care responsibilities affect the hours you can do then discuss that in terms of your availability. / the hours your are looking for, not in terms of your being a parent.
Also - absolutely do not put it on the CV as if you were suggesting that being a parent gives you skills or knowledge that non-parents don't have. Unless you are applying for a job in a nursery or pre-school it is not going to be true or necessary, and is just going to make you look out of touch with normal professional behaviour.
There may be skills which you have developed as a parent, but if they are relevant to the workplace you can bet that there will be plenty of people (Parents and non parents) who have developed them in the workplace, and if they are not relevant to the workplace, they do not belong on your CV.
All posts are my personal opinion, not formal advice Always get proper, professional advice (particularly about anything legal!)1
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