Altering time clock machine after employee has clocked in to later time

Shaowsal

 is it illegal if employer (or manager) alters time clock after i have clocked in to avoid paying overtime?

Masomnia

Possibly. It's a very serious allegation, so I'd suggest having good evidence if you were going to pursue it.

bap98189

The legality of it is irrelevent. What it is is falsifying records and it would certainly be considered gross misconduct in most companies. 

JamoLew

on the plus side - as long as they don't turn it back again during the day, you get to go home early

LittleVoice

JamoLew said:

on the plus side - as long as they don't turn it back again during the day, you get to go home early

They must have turned in back, not forward, after the employee clocked on if the intention was to avoid paying overtime.

Brackenfield

At my work, overtime has to be agreed in advance. So regardless of the time clocked in, it wouldn't accrue unless agreed.

Sandtree

LittleVoice said:

They must have turned in back, not forward, after the employee clocked on if the intention was to avoid paying overtime.

That only works for those that have already clocked in... at some point they are going to have to put it forward again otherwise the clock will be getting perpetually earlier and someone is going to ask when did they get so many night workers. So anyone who clocks in after its turned back and clocks back out when its turned back will get overtime for nothing (plus if clocking is used it normally means fairly long operating hours and so unlikely the same person will be there at opening and closing time).

May be it wasn't to play people on overtime but to hide his own late arrival

LittleVoice

Sandtree said:

LittleVoice said:

They must have turned in back, not forward, after the employee clocked on if the intention was to avoid paying overtime.

That only works for those that have already clocked in... at some point they are going to have to put it forward again otherwise the clock will be getting perpetually earlier and someone is going to ask when did they get so many night workers. So anyone who clocks in after its turned back and clocks back out when its turned back will get overtime for nothing (plus if clocking is used it normally means fairly long operating hours and so unlikely the same person will be there at opening and closing time).

May be it wasn't to play people on overtime but to hide his own late arrival

Which is the situation described by the OP.