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Altering time clock machine after employee has clocked in to later time

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 is it illegal if employer (or manager) alters time clock after i have clocked in to avoid paying overtime?

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  • MasomniaMasomnia Forumite
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    Possibly. It's a very serious allegation, so I'd suggest having good evidence if you were going to pursue it.
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  • bap98189bap98189 Forumite
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    The legality of it is irrelevent. What it is is falsifying records and it would certainly be considered gross misconduct in most companies. 
  • JamoLewJamoLew Forumite
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    on the plus side - as long as they don't turn it back again during the day, you get to go home early
  • LittleVoiceLittleVoice Forumite
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    JamoLew said:
    on the plus side - as long as they don't turn it back again during the day, you get to go home early

    They must have turned in back, not forward, after the employee clocked on if the intention was to avoid paying overtime.

  • BrackenfieldBrackenfield Forumite
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    At my work, overtime has to be agreed in advance. So regardless of the time clocked in, it wouldn't accrue unless agreed.
  • SandtreeSandtree Forumite
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    They must have turned in back, not forward, after the employee clocked on if the intention was to avoid paying overtime.

    That only works for those that have already clocked in... at some point they are going to have to put it forward again otherwise the clock will be getting perpetually earlier and someone is going to ask when did they get so many night workers. So anyone who clocks in after its turned back and clocks back out when its turned back will get overtime for nothing (plus if clocking is used it normally means fairly long operating hours and so unlikely the same person will be there at opening and closing time).

    May be it wasn't to play people on overtime but to hide his own late arrival
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    Sandtree said:
    They must have turned in back, not forward, after the employee clocked on if the intention was to avoid paying overtime.

    That only works for those that have already clocked in... at some point they are going to have to put it forward again otherwise the clock will be getting perpetually earlier and someone is going to ask when did they get so many night workers. So anyone who clocks in after its turned back and clocks back out when its turned back will get overtime for nothing (plus if clocking is used it normally means fairly long operating hours and so unlikely the same person will be there at opening and closing time).

    May be it wasn't to play people on overtime but to hide his own late arrival
    Which is the situation described by the OP.
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