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  • TELLIT01
    TELLIT01 Posts: 18,033 Forumite
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    The career path described by annabanana82 is as far removed from the norm as it's possible to find from my experience within the Civil Service.  Even more so if staying in the same department, by which I'm assuming they mean the same branch of the CS rather than in the same physical location and section.
    Most people joining the CS and expecting to double their salary in 10 years, unless they entered at a very lowly level, is likely to be severely disappointed.
  • TELLIT01 said:
    The career path described by annabanana82 is as far removed from the norm as it's possible to find from my experience within the Civil Service.  Even more so if staying in the same department, by which I'm assuming they mean the same branch of the CS rather than in the same physical location and section.
    Most people joining the CS and expecting to double their salary in 10 years, unless they entered at a very lowly level, is likely to be severely disappointed.
    I agree it's not typical but working in a large department we do see lots of people gain 3 promotions in 10 years now, when  I first started people were expected to do 2 or 3 posts per grade back in the early 2000's. Now it's more a case of two maybe 3 years in a post and try their luck at promotion. For some it works, may not be the best outcome for the department but it works at increasing their take home pay. 
    Starting back on a low salary helped me double my salary, I appreciate that might not be so easy if you're starting on £25k plus.

    I've stayed on the same site (it's pretty big) but in the same branch of the civil service. 
    Make £2023 in 2023 (#36) £3479.30/£2023

    Make £2024 in 2024...
  • I'm stuck in as an AA. Bordering on NLW for 48 hours each & every week. Nights & weekends included.  Overtime, I get Flat Rate. Dedicated Day Workers (Mon - Thurs, No Nights or Weekends) get 'almost' equal pay to me for the privilege of being away from my Family & Home during the middle of the night & working almost every weekend for £12.02 per hour - NLW as of Apr 24 will be £11.44.  Most of my colleagues are all receiving pay rises Apr 24 to lift them upto £11.44 squeezing current 'Pay Gap' from £1.19 pence per hour to £0.58 pence per hour. The same happened last year. I have made everyone I possibly can inform from my Line Manager to the Head 'Honcho'  of my worries & concerns but it falls on 'deaf ears'. No one Cares. No one Listens. No one Responds.  I'm 60 next year & flogging myself with Flat Rate overtime sometimes doing three extra 12 hour shifts at other locations where again a cohort of colleagues receive Double Time & Shift Allowances for exactly the same overtime shift. Equality. Fairness. Discrimination. The Civil Service, Ministry of Defence, 2024.

  • MPE-J
    MPE-J Posts: 23 Forumite
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    You won’t.

    there simple short answer.

    ive just left the civil service in the Home Office after a three year stint as a G7.

    i too was suckered in by the £X-£Y advertised pay band, but after successful interview and offer, my line manager to be phoned me and explained that all pay had been frozen over a decade ago, he explained that he could wangle me coming in at a mid spinal point but other than inflationary rises I wouldn’t ever get an incremental spinal point increase.

    i accepted and joined as frankly I had little choice by then.

    i later found out that he’d stuck his neck out re’ the starting pay band and that even this was an exception with other colleagues being boxed in at starting point.

    if you ask me the whole pay bands thing is misrepresentation and frankly a lie.
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