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Helping a friend, gentle advice needed
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A few months ago I joined this social networking site to meet new people during lockdown. On this site you have the option to purchase virtual currency, where you can pay money for gifting virtual items to friends. Through this site I met a wonderful young man who has become a good friend and we talk on a regular basis.
He called me recently in complete distress, saying he had wasted a ton of money on the website, had virtually liquidified all his savings and has all but maxed out his credit card. He's slipped into the red now, albeit very slightly, and didn't realise the habit he had was so bad. He's spent in excess of £3000 that I know of, possibly more.
(just to add, he's deleted the social network app, so he cant spend anymore)
He's only 25 and coupled with his mental health/lockdown worries it's almost tipped him over the edge. I've tried to console him as best I can and tried to offer some advice. Ultimately it is his own doing and he realises this, but he doesnt have a straightforward idea of how to get back on the track and start his repayments. I've sent him some links from the main MSE website but there is nothing to cover what is essentially a gambling debt.
He's also just started back at work, and gets paid every month, we've checked the benefits calculator and he's not eligible for any support ie: Working Tax/UC.
Can anybody please help me to get him through this?
He called me recently in complete distress, saying he had wasted a ton of money on the website, had virtually liquidified all his savings and has all but maxed out his credit card. He's slipped into the red now, albeit very slightly, and didn't realise the habit he had was so bad. He's spent in excess of £3000 that I know of, possibly more.
(just to add, he's deleted the social network app, so he cant spend anymore)
He's only 25 and coupled with his mental health/lockdown worries it's almost tipped him over the edge. I've tried to console him as best I can and tried to offer some advice. Ultimately it is his own doing and he realises this, but he doesnt have a straightforward idea of how to get back on the track and start his repayments. I've sent him some links from the main MSE website but there is nothing to cover what is essentially a gambling debt.
He's also just started back at work, and gets paid every month, we've checked the benefits calculator and he's not eligible for any support ie: Working Tax/UC.
Can anybody please help me to get him through this?
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Hi,He`s not asking you for money is he ?Debt advice is easy to obtain, is the £3000 the extent of his debts ?Its not a massive amount, and can be easily managed most likely by better budgeting, or some kind of arrangement with his creditors, its difficult to advise further without knowing more details on his finances etc.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter1
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sourcrates saidHe`s not asking you for money is he ?
£3000 is what I know of - he's drained £2k in savings and another £1k on the credit card. If there are other pools he's dipped into I am not quite aware, but I can broach the subject and get a few more details.
He's still living at home with his parents (not sure about rent, but likely not paying it, as he's blown through so much online). Not about to ask for help from bank of Mum and Dad as he's too embarrassed to face them about it.
edit to add: I purely came on the forum to help him out after a lengthy break from it, because the advice and articles were SO helpful for me. But then I took over our family finances eight years ago, it's a different situation totally and we were lucky that we didnt have any debts immediately that needed sorting - moreso we needed to overhaul our finances massively.
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So really he is 1000 in debt as 2k is from savings. That is £20 a week for a year . It doesn't sound so terrible if looked at that way. If I were him, I would be looking at paying off as much as I could each time his wages roll around and it will soon be gone.Its me Culpepper LOL couldn't sign in with the old ID so time for a fresh start....1
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As far as you know then its only the credit card thats over the limit, so a payment of x amount would bring that back under control ?I don`t think its debt advice he needs, just a bit of a common sense talking too might help.Surely just pay the amount the credit card company are asking for, or if that`s not possible, make an arrangement with them, from what you say he`s only gone over his limit, the whole £1000 debt won`t be due.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter1
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Thank you both, you have both raised some very good points. I'm due to talk with him this evening, so I will prod him for some more details and get back to you with some more information.
Don't think the credit card company are chasing him (yet). I think I will do the common sense route and try to get him to make some changes to his finances initially, and take it from there. (including telling him that paying £7 for his costa lunch everyday might be out the window!!)1 -
He just needs common sense talking into him, as it does not sound the debt will do too ,much harm, just a waste. Looks like packed up for lunch will soon make a dent in that.1
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He may have wasted £3000 but as others said his debt is only £1000 and he lives with his parents so his outgoings will be low. Tell him to cut back by taking his own lunch to work from home, cut back on his spending and start to make repayments on the credit card. Suggest he stops using the card and takes himself off any gambling sites or social media sites or apps with purchases so he wont be tempted again. Expensive lesson.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free Wannabe, Budgeting and Banking and Savings and Investment boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
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I cant really anything that hasnt already been said.
I agree he needs to just be sensible, does he need to buy x.
Various things he could do, change where he does his grocery shop and cook from scratch will help.0 -
All good advice above. If he cut out his £140 a month lunch habit he could have the debt cleared in no time. I'd also advise against anyone paying real money to buy "virtual gifts" - so basically giving a company money for them sending absolutely nothing!Debt Free: 06/03/2020 Highest Debt: £37,5141
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Would it be possible for you to post his SOA so we can look for quick savings to get this paid off ASAP? There are bound to be a few.
The credit card company won't be remotely bothered about this as long as he makes the minimum payments, which won't be much.1
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