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I know this question has mostly been answered, but there has been a change so I'm just wondering where this goes from here.
To go over things again, and to clarify, this isn't Paypal credit card, just the normal account linked to eBay, etc. In January the account was in a negative balance of over £2200, I had persistent calls from Paypal about it, and was paying off bit by bit, then at the end of March, they just stopped calling without a word. I continued to pay in what I could up to this week and the balance has dropped to £1.5k. Three weeks ago I received a letter from Wescots which I ignored, another one came this week, again ignored. I've blocked all calls and text messages from them as well.

Now today, I've received two emails from Paypal, one ending an agreement with eBay and the other saying my negative balance has now been converted into Euros, rather than GBP. I've barely received anything written from Paypal, and nothing in the post.  I tried logging into my account to check this but they've completely closed it. The question is, what will happen from here? I was still paying in, but now I actually can't. Advice across the internet doesn't really shed light on this.

Thanks.
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  • cymruchris
    cymruchris Posts: 5,562 Forumite
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    It seems like they've sold on your debt to Wescots - the letters and calls you have ignored probably pointed this out? The debt will still be active, it hasn't mysteriously disappeared. 
  • sourcrates
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    edited 6 June 2020 at 12:15PM
    Hi,
    I suspect Wescot will continue to try to collect this from you, give it about 3 months or so, and they will return the account to PayPal as uncollected.
    It is a well known fact that PayPal never take legal action to recover debts, this is mainly due to the fact that they created the debt in the first place by putting your account into a negative balance, so they are asking you to pay something you never agreed to, basically such a situation would never see the light of day in a court room.
    If you want to continue paying the debt, make an arrangement with Wescot, if not, then after a while it will just fade away.
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  • NewbieJD
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    It seems like they've sold on your debt to Wescots - the letters and calls you have ignored probably pointed this out? The debt will still be active, it hasn't mysteriously disappeared. 

    I know it hasn't disappeared, I haven't doubted that. As far as Wescot are concerned, it was my understanding that they don't buy debts. They also state that on their website that they don't buy or own debts.
  • sourcrates
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    edited 6 June 2020 at 12:10PM
    Wescot no longer purchases or owns debts. If an account is being managed by Wescot this does not mean they have bought the debt, it means they are managing recovery of the debt on behalf of the bank/utility company. Once the debt is repaid the account will return to the original company.
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  • NewbieJD
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    Hi,
    I suspect Wescot will continue to try to collect this from you, give it about 3 months or so, and they will return the account to PayPal as uncollected.
    It is a well known fact that PayPal never take legal action to recover debts, this is mainly due to the fact that they created the debt in the first place by putting your account into a negative balance, so they are asking you to pay something you never agreed to in the first place, basically such a situation would never see the light of day in a court room.
    If you want to continue paying the debt, make an arrangement with Wescot, if not, then after a while it will just fade away.

    Thank you for replying. I won't be dealing with Wescot as I have other debts that need clearing first, but I will monitor their letters.. I will put money aside for Paypal if they do come running after me at a later date, despite the fact they let the account go into a negative balance.
  • cymruchris
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    Wescot no longer purchases or owns debts. If an account is being managed by Wescot this does not mean they have bought the debt, it means they are managing recovery of the debt on behalf of the bank/utility company. Once the debt is repaid the account will return to the original company.
    That's good to know :smile:
  • Hi,
    I suspect Wescot will continue to try to collect this from you, give it about 3 months or so, and they will return the account to PayPal as uncollected.
    It is a well known fact that PayPal never take legal action to recover debts, this is mainly due to the fact that they created the debt in the first place by putting your account into a negative balance, so they are asking you to pay something you never agreed to, basically such a situation would never see the light of day in a court room.
    If you want to continue paying the debt, make an arrangement with Wescot, if not, then after a while it will just fade away.
    What great advice from a board guide. Paypal put an account into arrears because someone owes money. Never mind consumer responsibility, let's just tell people they can rip off Paypal and there will be no consequences. I have reported your post as it is wholly inappropriate. 
  • Fatsdom
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    Hi,
    I suspect Wescot will continue to try to collect this from you, give it about 3 months or so, and they will return the account to PayPal as uncollected.
    It is a well known fact that PayPal never take legal action to recover debts, this is mainly due to the fact that they created the debt in the first place by putting your account into a negative balance, so they are asking you to pay something you never agreed to, basically such a situation would never see the light of day in a court room.
    If you want to continue paying the debt, make an arrangement with Wescot, if not, then after a while it will just fade away.
    What great advice from a board guide. Paypal put an account into arrears because someone owes money. Never mind consumer responsibility, let's just tell people they can rip off Paypal and there will be no consequences. I have reported your post as it is wholly inappropriate. 
    Sourcrats merely gave factual advice, he didn't say it was right to do so. 
    I stand with Sour on this. 
  • Galloglass
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    What great advice from a board guide. Paypal put an account into arrears because someone owes money. Never mind consumer responsibility, let's just tell people they can rip off Paypal and there will be no consequences. I have reported your post as it is wholly inappropriate. 
    Paypal is simply a payment processor usually for Ebay. There will be something on a related Ebay account such as a consumer dispute where Ebay have made a decision for one of the parties - hence the Paypal debt.
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  • sourcrates
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    edited 8 June 2020 at 1:05PM
    Hi,
    I suspect Wescot will continue to try to collect this from you, give it about 3 months or so, and they will return the account to PayPal as uncollected.
    It is a well known fact that PayPal never take legal action to recover debts, this is mainly due to the fact that they created the debt in the first place by putting your account into a negative balance, so they are asking you to pay something you never agreed to, basically such a situation would never see the light of day in a court room.
    If you want to continue paying the debt, make an arrangement with Wescot, if not, then after a while it will just fade away.
    What great advice from a board guide. Paypal put an account into arrears because someone owes money. Never mind consumer responsibility, let's just tell people they can rip off Paypal and there will be no consequences. I have reported your post as it is wholly inappropriate. 

    Hi,
    Thank you for taking the time to post about this.
    I just stated the facts with no moral opinion either way, that is not my responcibility, nor my role.
    It is a fact, these kind of debts are unenforcable through the British court system, and this information is made available to anyone in a similar situation as the OP, complaints about PayPal are usually made on the E bay board, the board guides there are up to date with enforcability of such debts.

    We do occasionally get PayPal complaints on these boards too, so the same information is provided, a lot of PayPal chargebacks are due to fraud on the part of a buyer/seller, who reports an item as undelivered, or faulty, not sent when it was, or gives some other reason as to why they should be refunded, this almost always results in an account having a negative balance, and disputing such things with PayPal is a difficult procedure, and does not always ilicit a positive responce for the injured party.

    I ended my post with details on how to pay the debt, should the OP wish too.
    What the OP does with the information provided is entirley up to them, people post asking for help, and thats what we try to do, unfortunatly we cannot please all of the people, all of the time.
    The contents of my post were both acurate, and factual, and as we are a moneysaving website, we try to come down on the side of the consumer, when they are engaged in disputes with large multinational companies.

    I hope i have now clarified my position, thanks again.
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