The Effects of Coronavirus on CSA Payments

clearingout

presumably you expect your ex to keep a roof over your child's head and still feed him?  

Comms69

clearingout said:

presumably you expect your ex to keep a roof over your child's head and still feed him?  

Nothing to say the OP couldnt do that if the ex cant...

Barnesy01

clearingout said:

presumably you expect your ex to keep a roof over your child's head and still feed him?  

Hi, yes, yes I do. Or, alternatively, if she doesn't want to do that he can stay with me. 
I'd like to make this clear, if I have to have to pay then I have to pay, I have NEVER had a problem paying and the relationship I have with my son is brilliant, he wants for nothing from either household.  The money I give her is well spent, I have no issues from a financial point of view (I do have issues with her, but this is not the right place for that).
However, my original query was, due to Coronavirus, can I LEGALLY stop paying her, if I choose.  I know people will have "opinions" about what is right and what is wrong but they are not definitive.  As I write this, I am realising that it's not straight forward and could end up being a legal mess, which I don't really want to get into for the last few months I am legally bound to pay (it would cost a lot more in legal fees to settle).  Thanks to all who responded, I appreciate it, thanks.

Barnesy01

onwards&upwards said:

Are you sure your child isn’t finishing their course online?

Hi, no, he's finished.  From what I understand, he will be given results based on predicted grades, mock exams and lecturer opinion.  He will,however, have the choice of going back next year if he's not happy with his "results".  I don't think that will happen though.

Comms69

Barnesy01 said:

clearingout said:

presumably you expect your ex to keep a roof over your child's head and still feed him?  

Hi, yes, yes I do. Or, alternatively, if she doesn't want to do that he can stay with me. 
I'd like to make this clear, if I have to have to pay then I have to pay, I have NEVER had a problem paying and the relationship I have with my son is brilliant, he wants for nothing from either household.  The money I give her is well spent, I have no issues from a financial point of view (I do have issues with her, but this is not the right place for that).
However, my original query was, due to Coronavirus, can I LEGALLY stop paying her, if I choose.  I know people will have "opinions" about what is right and what is wrong but they are not definitive.  As I write this, I am realising that it's not straight forward and could end up being a legal mess, which I don't really want to get into for the last few months I am legally bound to pay (it would cost a lot more in legal fees to settle).  Thanks to all who responded, I appreciate it, thanks.

Keep in mind the legal fees are non existent. She pays £20 to CMS, they tell you what you have to pay - that's it

Barnesy01

Comms69 said:

Barnesy01 said:

clearingout said:

presumably you expect your ex to keep a roof over your child's head and still feed him?  

Hi, yes, yes I do. Or, alternatively, if she doesn't want to do that he can stay with me. 
I'd like to make this clear, if I have to have to pay then I have to pay, I have NEVER had a problem paying and the relationship I have with my son is brilliant, he wants for nothing from either household.  The money I give her is well spent, I have no issues from a financial point of view (I do have issues with her, but this is not the right place for that).
However, my original query was, due to Coronavirus, can I LEGALLY stop paying her, if I choose.  I know people will have "opinions" about what is right and what is wrong but they are not definitive.  As I write this, I am realising that it's not straight forward and could end up being a legal mess, which I don't really want to get into for the last few months I am legally bound to pay (it would cost a lot more in legal fees to settle).  Thanks to all who responded, I appreciate it, thanks.

Keep in mind the legal fees are non existent. She pays £20 to CMS, they tell you what you have to pay - that's it

Is that right? I didn't know that. So, if I opted NOT to pay her, she would have to contact CMS, they assess me and then they tell me the results, I pay up? Is there an appeals process?

Comms69

Barnesy01 said:

Comms69 said:

Barnesy01 said:

clearingout said:

presumably you expect your ex to keep a roof over your child's head and still feed him?  

Hi, yes, yes I do. Or, alternatively, if she doesn't want to do that he can stay with me. 
I'd like to make this clear, if I have to have to pay then I have to pay, I have NEVER had a problem paying and the relationship I have with my son is brilliant, he wants for nothing from either household.  The money I give her is well spent, I have no issues from a financial point of view (I do have issues with her, but this is not the right place for that).
However, my original query was, due to Coronavirus, can I LEGALLY stop paying her, if I choose.  I know people will have "opinions" about what is right and what is wrong but they are not definitive.  As I write this, I am realising that it's not straight forward and could end up being a legal mess, which I don't really want to get into for the last few months I am legally bound to pay (it would cost a lot more in legal fees to settle).  Thanks to all who responded, I appreciate it, thanks.

Keep in mind the legal fees are non existent. She pays £20 to CMS, they tell you what you have to pay - that's it

Is that right? I didn't know that. So, if I opted NOT to pay her, she would have to contact CMS, they assess me and then they tell me the results, I pay up? Is there an appeals process?

Basically that's it. 

You can appeal if the income figure used is wrong, but there's leeway in that figure and they use your P60 to work it out. 

The CMS is not a sledgehammer, at least not at the start. 2 reasonable people cant agree something, they simply put the relevant info into a formula and send you both the results. It's only if you then fail to pay that it becomes an enforcement issue

Barnesy01

Comms69 said:

Barnesy01 said:

Comms69 said:

Barnesy01 said:

clearingout said:

presumably you expect your ex to keep a roof over your child's head and still feed him?  

Hi, yes, yes I do. Or, alternatively, if she doesn't want to do that he can stay with me. 
I'd like to make this clear, if I have to have to pay then I have to pay, I have NEVER had a problem paying and the relationship I have with my son is brilliant, he wants for nothing from either household.  The money I give her is well spent, I have no issues from a financial point of view (I do have issues with her, but this is not the right place for that).
However, my original query was, due to Coronavirus, can I LEGALLY stop paying her, if I choose.  I know people will have "opinions" about what is right and what is wrong but they are not definitive.  As I write this, I am realising that it's not straight forward and could end up being a legal mess, which I don't really want to get into for the last few months I am legally bound to pay (it would cost a lot more in legal fees to settle).  Thanks to all who responded, I appreciate it, thanks.

Keep in mind the legal fees are non existent. She pays £20 to CMS, they tell you what you have to pay - that's it

Is that right? I didn't know that. So, if I opted NOT to pay her, she would have to contact CMS, they assess me and then they tell me the results, I pay up? Is there an appeals process?

Basically that's it. 

You can appeal if the income figure used is wrong, but there's leeway in that figure and they use your P60 to work it out. 

The CMS is not a sledgehammer, at least not at the start. 2 reasonable people cant agree something, they simply put the relevant info into a formula and send you both the results. It's only if you then fail to pay that it becomes an enforcement issue

Thanks for that.  I'm not dealing with a reasonable person so it wouldn't be worth putting myself through it for the next few months but it's interesting to know.  I'm still confident I have a good legal argument for not paying though!  Thanks for all your help and advice very much appreciated