Considering a job change in this climate

jonathanc8888

Savvy_Sue said:

Generally the advice is NOT to hand in notice until you have an unconditional offer letter in your hands - ie not subject to references, not subject to a health questionnaire, not subject to a DBS check or anything else. 

In reality, this often isn't practical: the new employer wants you as soon as your notice period ends and doesn't want you to wait until they have received the references to give notice, so you have to tell your current employer this request is coming. A DBS check (if needed) takes as long as it takes, but the new employer still wants you to start as soon as your notice period ends, and doesn't want you to wait until it arrives and so on. 

however, I would want SOMETHING in writing confirming salary etc. You don't have to be given a contract until you've been in the new job for 8 weeks, so getting it before you start may not happen either, certainly not before you hand in your notice. 

Thanks Savvy_Sue.
I have an email confirming verbal acceptance with salary and benefits. In the email I also have the HR Manager saying she will be preparing the documents on Monday.
Personally I would want to give as much notice as possible to current work so ample preparations could be made.
My job doesn't require a DBS check however my role is a specialist role.
Again on the personal side I do feel very guilty as my line manager is very nice to me but professionally I would have to consider my future and my family's future.

lincroft1710

jonathanc8888 said:

pop_gun said:

My former area manager left our company to take a job elsewhere. My immediate supervisor left for a job at the same company as the area manager. Both left within months of taking the job. My supervisor even showed me the text outlining this new job and from it I knew the company wasn't worth his troubles. This isn't to say the OP shouldn't seriously consider the offer, but factor in the workplace environment you currently have and the one you'll be joining. 

Current company is not doing too bad but new job has global presence (it's a subsidiary of a multinational) plus it's in another lower risk sector.

Being a subsidiary of a multinational is no guarantee in itself of it still being in business in 6 - 12 months time or that it is a fair and reasonable employer.

General_Grant

Savvy_Sue said:

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You don't have to be given a contract until you've been in the new job for 8 weeks, . . . 

Being really pedantic here but the timescale for written particulars of employment is two months from start date.
However this doesn't look as though it is relevant to the OP.

jonathanc8888

lincroft1710 said:

jonathanc8888 said:

pop_gun said:

My former area manager left our company to take a job elsewhere. My immediate supervisor left for a job at the same company as the area manager. Both left within months of taking the job. My supervisor even showed me the text outlining this new job and from it I knew the company wasn't worth his troubles. This isn't to say the OP shouldn't seriously consider the offer, but factor in the workplace environment you currently have and the one you'll be joining. 

Current company is not doing too bad but new job has global presence (it's a subsidiary of a multinational) plus it's in another lower risk sector.

Being a subsidiary of a multinational is no guarantee in itself of it still being in business in 6 - 12 months time or that it is a fair and reasonable employer.

That is a fair point. I am taking a big risk getting another job, I believe it's the same with anyone taking the next step in their career.
It's not an easy decision to make, especially after years working for this company. I did weigh the pros and cons and perhaps it's time I move on.