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New lender or second mortgage??

Hi,
Hoping somebody might have some advice. Our current mortgage deal has come to an end - we are now looking for a new deal (decided on a 2 year fixed), but we would like to borrow an additional £60,000 for improvements to the house. We have a low LTV and affordability wise, we haven’t got a problem with the additional amount.

Our existing mortgage is with Nationwide. They have advised me to take out a new deal for the existing mortgage, and to take out a second mortgage for the additional £60k. This seemed fine, but I am now faced with either two product fees of £999, or one product fee for the new mortgage, and a higher rate (1.64 vs1.24) on the existing amount to avoid the fee.

I can’t get my head round how this makes sense for us?? Surely I have no incentive to stay with Nationwide, and would instead be better getting a single mortgage for the total amount with a new lender?? I have spent the last couple of weeks trying to get a straight answer with Nationwide, and now I’m just totally confused!!! Any advice would be appreciated!!

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  • Thrugelmir
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    edited 10 February 2020 at 5:21PM
    Remortgaging to a new lender will come with additional costs, i.e. exit fee, legal fees and valuation fees. Plus potentially a product fee.  Product fees themselves become disportionate as the amount borrowed reduces. Likewise the shortened term of 2 years. Any particular reason for a 2 year fix? 
    What fee free rates are the Nationwide offering? 

  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,690 Forumite
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    When I worked for a lender and this type of thing cropped up, we would usually waive one of the £999 fees, I am not sure why nationwide would not do something similar if they can not do the whole thing in one go. I agree, if they can not do it then it probably makes sense to shop around. It probably makes sense to shop around anyway, but more so if they insist on the 2 fees. 
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
  • Remortgaging to a new lender will come with additional costs, i.e. exit fee, legal fees and valuation fees. Plus potentially a product fee.  Product fees themselves become disportionate as the amount borrowed reduces. Likewise the shortened term of 2 years. Any particular reason for a 2 year fix? 
    What fee free rates are the Nationwide offering? 

    Thanks so much for the advice - I hadn’t thought about incurring valuation, legal costs etc. 

    Fee free with nationwide is 1.64%, or it’s 1.24% with fee. Two year fixed decision was based on the possibility of a move (relocation) in the not too distant future...however I would consider alternative as even with a move, we wouldn’t be looking to borrow any more.
  • ACG said:
    When I worked for a lender and this type of thing cropped up, we would usually waive one of the £999 fees, I am not sure why nationwide would not do something similar if they can not do the whole thing in one go. I agree, if they can not do it then it probably makes sense to shop around. It probably makes sense to shop around anyway, but more so if they insist on the 2 fees. 
    Thank you, this is what I thought, and what the people in branch have suggested. However, their online people seemed to contradict this. I have an appointment booked in branch now, so hopefully they’ll be able to offer a bit more clarity. I just don’t want the hassle of the appointment, if they’re going to tell me the same thing. Thanks again!
  • ACG
    ACG Posts: 24,690 Forumite
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    Many remortgages include free valuation and standard legals, but the exit fee (around £80-100) would still be chargeable. 
    I am a Mortgage Adviser
    You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a mortgage adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice.
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