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  • Martyn1981
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    It's still growing on me, as a practical pick up, but like many others I'm still struggling to upgrade from F'ugly.

    But $40k for 250 miles, with leccy and air tools able to run off it, the potential is there, even if you need sunglasses with the mirrors on the inside to look straight at it.

    Presumably the flat/angular design is partly due to the stainless steel and its strength, which would make multiple angles and shapes hard. Looks to me like most of the panels only have one simple straight bend each.

    A positive comment I heard was that the design is 'polarising' and with Tesla only aiming for 50k to 150k sales (as they ramp up) out of a ~3m pa market, they only need a few lovers, regardless of how many haters there are.

    It's not funny, well it sorta is, but smashing those windows was a bit of a downer, Elon definitely lost his Mojo at that point, and I'm sure he kept looking behind him to check that 'yeah, I'm standing right between the two smashed panels, I bet this is gonna look great!' Also a bit unfortunate as he'd taken two gentle swipes at Ford already by saying the Cybertruck is really tough, not just pretend tough, which had to be a reference to Ford's truck motto of 'built Ford tough'.
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  • joefizz
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    ABrass wrote: »
    Plus if you want to customise it you can just weld onto the bodywork!


    Might defeat the stealth capabilities though ;-)
  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    joefizz wrote: »
    Was close with my earlier back to the future reference...
    Wouldnt have looked out of place in 1980s belfast and bulletproof as well, well maybe...

    I know they have been cost cutting and laying off at Tesla but I could have lent them some spare computing capacity to run the polynomials.

    Can definitely see it taking up part of the pickup market that requires a 30mm gun mounted on the back.
    Or the drug dealing sci fi nerd community...

    Wonder does it have a hidden 4th directive...

    Wonder, if like the delorean you can just polish it with a brillo pad.


    It would be a great military vehicle
    It has 1.6 ton carrying capacity
    They can just weld on 1 ton more armour if needed and still have capacity to carry 600kg

    Repalce the !!!! windows with steel windows and use the cameras to drive what is a light tank that can cruise at 100mph. Or have steel windows as a secondary window you can wind up on admired mode and likewise how the rear is covered the same type of steel to cover the front

    Carry surveillance drones or explosive drones use the battery to recharge them if necessary
    Mount a machine gun on the back
    Mount a 6 person seating in the back plus 6 inside to carry 12
    Possibly floats on water so cross rivers so blowing up bridges doesn't slow these
    Tap into local grid to refuel more places with electricity than petrol

    Military, police force, defence contractors, or anyone who needed additional security from politicians to drug lords.

    Of all their vehicles I think this is the best
  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    edited 22 November 2019 at 10:08PM
    1961Nick wrote: »
    I can see it being as popular as the Sinclair C5.
    The Spaceship may have landed ... but on the wrong planet!
    I doubt Ford are too worried about the impact on F150 sales.
    An opportunity missed imo ... glad to be proved wrong though.


    This will sell will it sell well? I think it will if the $40,000 price is true
    Americans like big cars
    It's the nation of guns and military spending

    Regular humvee is not bullet proof this partially is and can be made fully so by welding steel over the windows. Regular humvee doesn't float so bridges become problems or chokes

    This can probably also be remotely controlled by the military it's ready to go it has all the camera needed for remote 'flying' like with air military drones. You could even program one to drive ahead acting as a shield for the ones behind. Or program 10 to follow the one driver at the front risking one life rather than 10

    Mount weapons on the back
    Adapt for person carrier with 6 inside and another 6 in the rear perhaps even covered

    Use by police force partially bullet proof and can out accelerate most sports cars


    Lots of possibilities it's not going to win design awards or be used by mums taking their toddler for daycare but it has a market methinks
  • joefizz
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    GreatApe wrote: »
    Lots of possibilities it's not going to win design awards or be used by mums taking their toddler for daycare but it has a market methinks


    I think you underestimate the mums taking toddlers to daycare arms race... started with cars, then mpvs as safer, then suvs, then 4x4s...
    Once the first mum turns up in an actual tank then the rest will follow.


    Will be a perpetual motion machine for the local southern militias though... darned lefty eco machine vs bulletproof truck for 40 grand!


    Agree about the defence angle, what better to show off your green credentials than racing around in your solar powered eco vehicle whilst firing depleted uranium at the local populace...



    Looking forward to the first youtube videos showing up the non bulletproof capabilities of the domestic production cost cut model.... ..cant see US law enforcement being too happy about citizens driving round in bulletproof vehicles, thats their domain!
  • GreatApe
    GreatApe Posts: 4,452 Forumite
    joefizz wrote: »
    I think you underestimate the mums taking toddlers to daycare arms race... started with cars, then mpvs as safer, then suvs, then 4x4s...
    Once the first mum turns up in an actual tank then the rest will follow.

    Will be a perpetual motion machine for the local southern militias though... darned lefty eco machine vs bulletproof truck for 40 grand!

    Agree about the defence angle, what better to show off your green credentials than racing around in your solar powered eco vehicle whilst firing depleted uranium at the local populace...

    Looking forward to the first youtube videos showing up the non bulletproof capabilities of the domestic production cost cut model.... ..cant see US law enforcement being too happy about citizens driving round in bulletproof vehicles, thats their domain!


    Cars of the future will most likely have a remote disable function making it a lot easier for the police

    It's the price point that is intriguing
    $39,900 is about the price of a model 3 sr+
    This thing is much bigger seats 6 and must surely have at least twice the battery pack due to size and inefficiencies

    Either it's smoke and they won't produce the $40k version bar maybe a couple hundred to say look we did it... Or they have or hope to have some much cheaper manufacturing

    Perhaps China is their hope if wages and construction costs 1/4th as much as it does in USA/Germany then perhaps they can get to these price points


    Overall it's just hype for now it won't really be out for 2 years and then probably 3-4 years for the mass non premium highest price versions

    I think it will definitely sell. The trend has been for a long time just make cars bigger people once they drive a big car don't want to go back to a small car. Also Americans and many Europeans are now obease so getting in and out of a car about walking height is easier or even the only realistic option than getting into a low down sedan. I hadn't realised this until some obease you tube revised pointed it out. Makes a lot of sense now. Especially as the most fat age group are probably middle age men who do most the new car buying
  • 1961Nick
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    146,000 reservations for the Cybertruck in the first 24 hours alone.:cool:
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  • joefizz
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    edited 24 November 2019 at 10:34AM
    1961Nick wrote: »
    146,000 reservations for the Cybertruck in the first 24 hours alone.:cool:


    Definitely worth a punt at 100 usd/gbp deposit ;-)


    edit: meant to add.. as long as its not a publicity stunt ;-)
  • Martyn1981
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    Starting to grow on me, but struggling to get past the looks.

    Ideal vehicle, me thinks for law enforcement with 6 seats and plenty of stowage for kit, especially in a highway support roll. And a steal at $40k if it needs little to no bodywork work over its lifetime.

    I've also heard of high reservations, possibly 200k+ now. But at $100 and fully refundable, I don't know if they really count, but with targets of around 50k to 150k vehicles across yrs 1-3, they won't need many more orders.
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • Is that design to get it past the speed radars?!



    Not sure what electronic measures they're going to put in this model but it doesn't look very pedestrian friendly.. Are they going for the paranoid Hummer market with the armoured windows?
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