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I'm pretty rubbish at styling my hair therefore it is always down, updo's don't reallt suit me
My hair is fine and gets greasy/oily incredibly fast after washing i have started using dry shampoo which does help but can anyone recommend any shampoos etc that help with this or any tips etc

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  • Anoneemoose
    Anoneemoose Posts: 2,270 Forumite
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    I can’t comment on dry shampoo as I’m allergic to it, but I have similar hair to you. It’s fine, although there’s lots of it, but it used to end up lank looking quite often.

    I’ve found using shampoo and conditioner without silicone in has really helped. Silicones are the things that make your hair shiny and smooth (and weighed down), but there are alternatives without them.

    I currently use the Jojoba range by Faith in Nature. I’ve previously used the coconut one too and that was good.

    I don’t use any styling products either as I just have a shaped bob and it isn’t needed. When I had longer hair, it often made it look more straggly as well. A different style with some added shape might help you too.
  • amandacat
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    I suffer the same issue and have found nothing helps other than dry shampoo. If I wash my hair after work it looks greasy the next morning. I find dry shampoo works well if I apply it before bed and then I don’t wake up looking greasy. Some dry shampoo is better than others as well.
  • sammyjammy
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    Another fine and oily hair person here, my tips:

    don't touch your hair all day(bad habit of mine)
    don't wash it to often, all this does is cause more oil ot be produced
    when you wash don't scrub your scalp, wash your hair with flat hands

    I find using a light leave in conditioner helps my hair but whatever happens because of the hair touching every second day is an up do day.
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  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    edited 29 October 2019 at 11:44PM
    It is possible you might be using a shampoo that's too harsh so your scalp produces lots of oil to compensate for being thoroughly stripped. Check to see if what you're using contains SLS and/or SLES (sodium lauryl sulphate / sodium laureth sulphate). If it contains both, look for one that only contains SLES (laureth) - most supermarket own-brands and popular brands like Garnier and Alberto Balsam are in this category. If your current shampoo only contains SLES you could consider trying sulphate-free, but cautiously because you still need something that cleans your scalp enough, and if your scalp is not happy your hair won't be either.

    Checking for silicones as mentioned is also a good idea - they are ingredients like dimethicone, amodimethicone, cyclopentasiloxane, etc. As a general rule they end in -one, -xane (except a couple of preservatives you'll find right at the bottom of ingredients lists, methylisothiazolinone and methylchloroisothiazolinone). Silicones in your conditioner can be useful but in shampoo they are terrible for oily scalps. This might actually be the best place to start.

    Ultimately sebum production is dictated by hormones, so although some things might work to help prevent *excess* production, there comes a point when nothing will make any further difference. For me, I was using a harsh shampoo (Herbal Essences, very stripping) and looking greasy by the end of the first day. By using milder shampoo I tend to not look greasy until the second day. But I've not been able to get it down past that; I have stretched my washes beyond looking greasy, and only washing when my scalp was unhappy - and as I don't leave the house very often I've been able to do that for well over a year now. Yet the oil production is still the same.

    One other factor can be diet (it evidently impacts the hormones in some way) because sometimes people find that overhauling their diet from less-healthy to more-healthy decreases their oil production, but I'm not recommending trying it just for your hair! If someone genuinely wants to change their diet for other reasons, less-greasy hair is sometimes an unexpected bonus.

    Edit: I also second not touching it very often, such includes not brushing it several times a day. For us oily types simulation of the scalp tends to encourage sebum production. However do make sure that when you wash you are thoroughly ... not scrubbing, because that's too harsh, but you do need to make sure your scalp is sufficiently rubbed to dislodge sebum and dead skin in order to be washed away when you rinse off the shampoo.
  • katie4
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    thanks everyone ooh yes i use herbal essences eek! I will look for alberto balsalm today then and hope that helps i usually wash my hair every other day as i don't generally have the time every day but yes i wash in the night and by morning its already started to get greasy so i dry shampoo the crap outta it!
  • shwetaa
    shwetaa Posts: 15 Forumite
    I have the same issue with my hair. They get incredibly greasy by the end of the day and that looks terrible. I had hair loss problem too because of the same. I have started 2 things:
    1. Medkin Shampoo
    2. Alovera every weekend.
    This has somewhat helped me. Also, I do not use conditioner on my hair as that also makes my hair more oily.
    Let me know if that helps you.
  • A.Penny.Saved
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    edited 2 November 2019 at 5:25PM
    The cause could be a vitamin or mineral deficiency because there are a number of them which can influence sebum production which can cause greasy hair.

    You could find that taking additional vitamin B5 might help reduce oil production. It is often recommended for acne but could also help with greasy hair for similar reasons.

    Vitamin B5 requirements can dramatically rise when Liver Phase 2 detox rises and the Liver gets as much as possible leaving insufficient for other needs of the body.

    Be aware that most Vitamin B5 is calcium pantothenate which is 54% calcium. Ensuring that you get phosphorus with it is important to maintain a natural balance. Fairly high doses are often needed to produce an effect.

    Zinc deficiency can also cause greasy hair. Read about DHT in the following article:

    https://www.healthyhairplus.com/how_zinc_reduce_oily_hair_scalp_s/4288.htm

    This gives some useful information, some of which have already been found by posters in this thread.
  • busybee100
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    Bodyshop ginger, expensive but you only need a small amount so it lasts longer.
  • Spoonie_Turtle
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    Yeah, StyleCraze is not a reliable source, like most fashion/beauty/pop culture articles about hair and hair care. Usually some kernels of truth but without the proper context, presented as universal fact.


    Reasons
    1. no, fine/medium/coarse hair is nothing to do such how much sebum your scalp produces. In fact neither is the texture, but it does obviously effect how visible the oil is.

    3. Not true

    5. *Sigh* no - eczema and psoriasis are the total opposite of oily skin. Seborrheic dermatitis occurs because of sensitivity to the fatty acids produced by malassezia yeast, which feed on sebum - so while an oily scalp does not cause SD, and SD most certainly does not cause an oily scalp, the incidence is higher among people with normal of oily scalps. (Dry scalps that produce little or no sebum have nothing for the yeast to feed on.)

    8. Technically no - product buildup will weigh hair down and make it *look* greasier, but it doesn't actually affect sebum production.

    9. Eh, kind of - true for some people but as said earlier in the thread, if shampooing less frequently doesn't help, it's not a crime to shampoo every day if you really need to.

    11, 12. Sort of true - too much of the wrong conditioner won't help. But at the same time you need a conditioner moisturising enough for your lengths and ends, especially if they are heat or dye damaged.

    13. Absolutely not true. Very very tight ponytails are damaging, but nothing to do with oily hair!

    14. Nope. Again, very damaging, but your follicles don't somehow know what's going on with hair that's already grown! Though an excess of styling products e.g. heat serums might build up and make it *look* greasy (as in no.8).


    Prevention
    1. True about less brushing, but a boar bristle brush certainly doesn't work for everyone! It makes many people look like a total oil slick, because it both stimulates more oil production and spreads it all over the scalp hair (but not much further) making it even worse. For others, it can cause split ends, even with 100% pure bristles. Of course, there are people for whom a BBB works wonders, but they are often people with dry/drier scalps.

    2. The principle is sound but it probably needs to be longer than 30secs!

    3. *Sigh* a misleading half-truth - a final cold rinse can be beneficial, but to properly rinse off products, especially conditioner, it needs to be lukewarm water at least, but preferably warm. (Not hot - that does simulate extra oil and very hot can be damaging to the hair itself too.)

    4. Again, true for some but not for others. You have to see what works for your own hair. (Now if they'd framed that as 'something to try' rather than what should be done, it would be fine.)
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