time off work

teabeagea

i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction from a legal stand point with regards to time off work for medical appointments ( doctors , dentist , hospital ) for me but also time off connected to the needs of my family ( appointments for my wife or kids that i may need to attend as well ) .

the reason i ask is that I work 39 hours a week and that if I take take off for appointments I am supposed to make up the time or take it as holiday but this has traditionally not been upheld and I just don't get paid for the hours missed but we have a new " shitler " in charge and he seems obsessed about making the time up and I am looking for clarification on the rules.

thanks for any help

getmore4less

None, for what you describe.

Contractual terms apply.

MovingForwards

It varies, some companies allow paid time off, some say it comes out your holiday entitlement, others say must be first thing in the morning or late afternoon/evening.

It will be in the company handbook, also look at absence management policy, holiday policy, flexible working etc.

Blatchford

teabeagea wrote: »

i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction from a legal stand point with regards to time off work for medical appointments ( doctors , dentist , hospital ) for me but also time off connected to the needs of my family ( appointments for my wife or kids that i may need to attend as well ) .

the reason i ask is that I work 39 hours a week and that if I take take off for appointments I am supposed to make up the time or take it as holiday but this has traditionally not been upheld and I just don't get paid for the hours missed but we have a new " shitler " in charge and he seems obsessed about making the time up and I am looking for clarification on the rules.

thanks for any help

Oh dear. Your manager is applying the employers policy in a lawful way. Whatever next?

It's hard to imagine why anyone would want to be a manager. You get called if you stick to the policies, you get called if you don't. And you're a bully if anyone you manage doesn't like anything you do. We really do seem to be developing a snowflake culture in work these days. I doubt anybody would want to return to the bad old days of few employment rights, but it does sometimes feel that some people these days think that employment is about having everything your own way.

Tigsteroonie

teabeagea wrote: »

i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction from a legal stand point with regards to time off work for medical appointments ( doctors , dentist , hospital ) for me but also time off connected to the needs of my family ( appointments for my wife or kids that i may need to attend as well )

As others have said, no rights at all from a legal standpoint. It all depends on what is written in your contract. If not mentioned, then you have no contractual rights either.

Dox

A bit of googling would have got you straight to the relevant info e.g. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/rights-at-work/basic-rights-and-contracts/time-off-work-overview/
or
https://www.mirror.co.uk/money/youre-legally-entitled-time-work-14269671

kazwookie

What is in your contract about time off?
What is in your staff hand book?
What have HR said about extra time off?
Have you asked for flexible working?

TELLIT01

Entirely at company discretion although most sensible employers realise that it's not possible to pick and choose hospital appointements, and it's becoming just about as impossible to pick and choose GP appointments. Dental appointments are generally expected to be taken in your own time, or time made back up. Paid time off to attend appointments with partner / children is not usual, although may be paid in exceptional circumstances.
As said - down to the employer, but the above has been my experience.

[Deleted User]

Blatchford wrote: »

Oh dear. Your manager is applying the employers policy in a lawful way. Whatever next?

It's hard to imagine why anyone would want to be a manager. You get called if you stick to the policies, you get called if you don't. And you're a bully if anyone you manage doesn't like anything you do. We really do seem to be developing a snowflake culture in work these days. I doubt anybody would want to return to the bad old days of few employment rights, but it does sometimes feel that some people these days think that employment is about having everything your own way.

Chill
How are you motivated to help anyone with this attitude? Fortunately I went to an interview yesterday that started why does anyone chose to be zero-hours and no they were not young or a minimum wage employer. So thankfully not everyone shares your view.

Having things your own way - as the 38 year old with a contract that reads:

"Your normal hours of work are 0 hours per week, excluding meal breaks. ("Basic hours") You will be notified at least 1 week in advance as to how these hours will be arranged." Although as the zero-hours/hourly paid worker I've yet to be able to turn down a shift
while neither will I be stopped trying to better this line. Good old zero-hours.

Admittedly the 38 and up featuring 50 year old were clever enough to opt for shift-work which meant they didn't need to ask anything of their employer.
It's quite hilarious when colleagues who are such the magic 'guaranteed hours' turn up half hour after shift starts and can wonder off couple of hours before their finish time.

A 50 odd year with less service that then 38 year old, receiving a contract that reads:
"Your normal hours of work are 37.5 hours per week, (Basic hours) excluding meals breaks blah blah"

So today OP it is very much what you are prepared to fight for.

FBaby

The question is how often do you request such time off?

elsien

Time off for your own appointments is one thing, if your contract allows.
Expecting paid time off for appointments with your wife and children is a whole different ballgame. That's where unpaid leave or holiday entitlement comes in.